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EARTH FLEET: Japan

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Created atNovember 13, 2008
Created byTimo Vuorensola
ClosedNovember 25, 2009
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Stefan Bast Humanoid robots!!
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Oleg Transmorfers O_O
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benny kusnoto why japan fleet?
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Closing Note

Thanks *everyone* for great shots and comments! We've had so far very good ideas, and will start designing the Earth Fleet ships based on your ideas.

We're going to need further assistance later on, and we'll put more specific tasks as we move along.

Great stuff!

Description

In Iron Sky, the Earth will stand up and defend itself against the Nazi enemy. In 2018, many of the countries have developed their space program - maybe in the shadows, maybe in open - to also be able to engage in a fight in the orbit or in deep space, if necessary.

In this task, we need ideas for what the space ship of Japan would look like.

We'd request everything from descriptions to concept drawings, from crude ideas to finalized artwork - whatever is your game.

Few guidelines:

- The film is set in 2018 - so don't get over-excited on tech!
- There's no such thing as "interstellar travel" or "antigravity" invented.
- Be reasonable - try to be functional, and limit your ideas to feasible technologial advancements.
- For ideas, you can look for example the "Venture Star" -program: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venture_Star
- Also, the ideas can be pretty wacky ones - maybe some huge project a country has been working on is, instead of being what it looks like, a battleship?

We've already discussed the weapons technology in the previous task:

http://www.wreckamovie.com/tasks/show/52

Maybe reading through the thumbed-up -shots (you can sort them in the task) would give some ideas as well.

Included you'll find some concept art of stuff our concept artist Jussi has done. You may use them non-commercially and share them with others, but not claim them your own or charge money from them. Here's more info on the CC-license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/us/

As the licence in Iron Sky production requires, you need to give all the rights for derivative or original work you do for this task to the Iron Sky team for us being able to use them.

Go for it, people! Let's design the greatest space fleet in the history of film!


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Oleg April 21, 2009 14:14 2 Thumb-ups
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Transmorfers O_O

Well dont know if such an idea went to others brains but I think that Japanese battleships must be small & quik, hi-tech look + great functioning... For example they can be a part of something big one ( 3-5 battleships turns into something MUUCH bigger & deadliest - watch "Power Rangers" :) ) .Probably they can have some morphing structures or screens to make them look like other ships or objects ( hi-tech-hide&seek ^_^) Also they can use some hi-tech weapons such as lasers, IMP cannons & powershields as defence... Material must be some sort of metal+ceramics ( or analogical - ligt but hard to destroy)... and IMHO all the batleships must be with national Japan Flag on it becaurse Japaneese are wery proud of their country...
P.S As a secondary idea - names of the vessels must have some sort of "samurai" or philosophical names - "Bushido" "Sakura" "Banzai" or even "Kami Kadze" ( sorry if i pronounce some words incorrect & not loke they sound at Japaneese)...

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Amy Macintyre November 04, 2009 00:48 Flag

Has anyone played Red Alert 3? The Japanese army is very feudal/anime-styled, and has several transforming mecha units (a walking robot that transforms into a plane, for example) I'd like to see some Japanese planes come together to form a spaceship and fly into space to fight the nazis ;D

Lynn Kirkconnell August 05, 2009 03:42 Flag

OMGs that's perv :) :)

David Jansson July 16, 2009 10:39 Flag

Ships combining into a robot or a bigger ship isn't just Power rangers (or Super sentai as the original is called in Japan). It's a time honoured tradition in Japanese kids anime. If there will be a Japanese space fleet It NEEDS to spoof this. :D

I read a funny Power ranger spoof in the Sluggy freelance webcomic. When they tried to combine to the big robot everything went to hell, because the guy with the ship that made up the big robots crotch were in a shaggy bar banging a hooker or some such, so they couldn't attach the legs.

Lynn Kirkconnell June 14, 2009 08:41 Flag

*slaps forehead*

Hybrid materials, yes.

Ship names, yeah.

But please, not the Power Rangers.

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Tom Thomssen July 14, 2009 16:57 3 Thumb-ups
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Inspired by the Godzilla movies

In some Godzilla movie the Japanese had a single experimental green clumsy looking ship. It's main weapon was some weird energy cannon. Maybe an impoved version is in a hangar and waiting of a new Godzilla attack. This ship could be called the Big Lizard. I believe it's ookii tokage or something like that in Japanese. There could be these small lizard or monster symbols under it's main cannon, one for each monster that have been killed in Godzilla movies by a ship like this.

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(null) July 17, 2009 01:40 Flag

MajorD, good point. It would be a very subtle but good in-joke, which would work best if it isn't too obviously highlighted.

MajorD July 16, 2009 23:38 Flag

The aspect I really like of this idea is putting kill marks on the Japanese ship in the shapes of famous killed Japanese monster movie monsters. They should be hidden near the canopy or hatch so it isn't too obvious but noticeable if you pay attention. Maybe they'll look like normal kill marks at first, until you realize exactly what the marks are.

Heroic martial Japanese music also needs to be played along with the launch.

Peter Vesterbacka July 15, 2009 05:22 Flag

Very cool. We should ask them to join Wreckamovie and do some remix project(s) here. Could also be cool as promo material.

(null) July 15, 2009 03:48 Flag

Not directly connected to this, but talk of combining Japanese sci-fi with Nazis brought this to mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUkVYauZWHg

Maybe someone at Energia could a tribute to this in the film's background as an in-joke? :-)

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Carl L. July 16, 2009 20:21 0 Thumb-ups
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Look no further than classic anime

On the low-tech end I'd go with something along the lines of Royal Space Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Space_Force:_The_Wings_of_Honneamise)

On the high-tech end, it would be more like the defense fleet of Macross.

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Stig-Magnus Gjerald July 16, 2009 21:36 Flag

Good one. also like last exile, when it comes to low-tech(well lowtech-ish).

Macross fleet is a tad to high tech in my personal opinion.

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MajorD July 01, 2009 03:26 5 Thumb-ups
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Luigi Colani and Bullet Trains

Luigi Colani designed an airplane for a Japanese company and I think that design would be rather awesome as inspiration for their ships. It looks like leaves, it's a crazy design and really says Japan to me. Or, anime, which is also Japanese.

Also, the bullet train is very Japanese. So, how about launching their ships by way of either bullet train or magnetic accelerator rail. The story can be that their research into magnetic levitation trains or bullet trains is really research into space launchers. One day, the Moon Nazis are on their way, and out of seemingly no where, stretches of Japanese rail lines angle upward, or shift to seemingly abandoned routes up the sides of mountains. All of a sudden, they launch space ships by the dozens!

As for giant walking robots, please avoid them as a serious weapon for the Japanese. Although, I have absolutely no doubt that some Japanese group or guy will build a fully functional giant walking combat robot, I doubt in the extreme it will be anything but a giant toy. That doesn't mean the guy won't try using it to fight, but their military won't have them, and it would do horribly. It would be a reverse of the idea that giant walking robots are somehow better than tanks and wheeled vehicles if the giant walking robot were to die from the first shot of the ground portion of the war.

I could see them having human size power armor, if we're assuming massive secret government spending. That would actually be practical, but not superior to tanks or armored fighting vehicles.

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Timo Vuorensola July 01, 2009 17:39 Flag

That's a wonderful find, indeed! That's exactly the kind of japaneseish thing we've been looking for! Great!

(null) July 01, 2009 13:26 Flag

Wonderful design, looks distinctive and does indeed scream "Japan".

Distinctive designs are of course very important in huge battle scenes as you need to help the audience keep track of who is who.

And the rail-launching system would fit in perfectly too, everyone knows the Japanese for being pioneers of very high speed railways. Plus it would make a nice change from the usual rockets.

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benny kusnoto July 01, 2009 00:29 2 Thumb-ups
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why japan fleet?

things are comin' up in my mind:
1.i agreed for what kris said 'bout abandoned spacecraft project in 2003.
2.The Japanese spacecraft design should be more like captain harlock's ship mixed to what we got now. Perhaps it so called,THE FUTURE IS NOW. SCI-FI things but still realistic kinda style.i know 2018 is not too far (thats why you wanted to be more realitic) but its still a sci-fi (eye catchy things ALWAYS HELPS!).And it would be looked much much cool to fight the nazis flying saucers (of course the naziz got the retro style,coz they 're bit lost contact to the earth).
3.EMP canon?
4.Fast enough to intercept
5.Or big (but not too big) spaceship carrier
6.Or the fleet should be like the way the fleet we know: mother spaceship carrier,battle(space)ship,cruiser,destroyer,interceptor vessel/fighter
7.The last thing but its THE IMPORTANT THING IS: The Japanese govermnt tried to bought the U.S. f22 raptor but they dont gave it. and the japanese govermnt said: " if we couldn't buy those raptors we'd like to build/developing our own". it started in 2010! that's what i've heard.

based on point 1&7 we could run point 2 to 6.

geeks/fanboys on earth are behind you!!

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(null) June 26, 2009 12:49 1 Thumb-up
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HOPE-X

If you want to be authentic, you might want to include this craft:

http://www.aerospaceguide.net/hope-x.html

It was supposed to be Japan's first manned spacecraft but it was abandoned in 2003 apparently.

EDIT: Apologies for posting on a closed task, I didn't notice the date at first and there's no delete option. Sorry. :-)

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Stefan Bast April 21, 2009 13:53 2 Thumb-ups
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Humanoid robots!!

The japanese build human look-a-like robots, that can ride a bicycle, play football or do karate moves even in 2009, by 2018 they will have fully functioning robo servants ... which probably all look a lot like teenage school girls with extremely short skirts.

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Oleg April 22, 2009 07:50 Flag

Well, then all watch "Neon Genesis Evangelion" anime & cope EVA-s from there into film :)

Oskar Lönnberg April 22, 2009 05:45 Flag

That would nicely fill in the stereotypic expectations what Japan would do :)

Oh and to really fill up we would need to put Battle Angel Alita type of robots into the film (others might know her as Gally from manga Gunnm by Yukito Kishiro).

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Petri Liuhto November 19, 2008 07:07 1 Thumb-up
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Kamikazes in space

The japanise could use somekind of suicide vessels. Maeby an upgraded version of this:

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Rolson March 06, 2009 15:41 Flag

well probably u dont need otakudrones... japan is leading robot tech country so there probably be an army of asimos in space and spaceships will look like hondamobiles of the future ;D

Oskar Lönnberg November 20, 2008 09:01 Flag

Lasse: yes the Otaku idea is actually quite cool.

Jani: Virgin Galactic style implementation of how to get the kamikaze bombs/ships into space is quite doable and suitable here.

Jack Malinowski November 20, 2008 02:00 Flag

I think the important thing to remember is that most earth tech. makes a big deal entering 'space' and 'atmosphere', while the MooNazis fly rings around atmospheric and space-craft...
Any invading force would be cut to swiss cheese on arrival if not before...
ON THE OTHER HAND,
It is possible that any successful assault on the Moon would resemble the storming of Normandy. It took a few years for the 'Allies' to get the 'bravery' to attempt Normandy. I don't know if Earthies would try it. I assume they've been appeasing MooNazis for some time... secretly of course...
Frontal Assault is probably their best bet. The raw numbers are in Earth's favor... Then again, attacking a MooNazi base that has been engineered for Earth space supremacy might not be the best idea. It would be funny if the Earthies started with this tack. And... uhm... ha ha...

Lasse Kleemola November 19, 2008 20:13 Flag

But the entire concept of kamikaze was not born out of desperation, but of a very twisted philosophy and concept of honour (from Western, individualist point of view) . The Japanese "intelligentsia" at the time genuinely believed that they were losing the war jsut because they had violated against the warrior's honor by being guilty of hubris; they had underestimated and ridiculed their opponent and thought that war would be easily won. By making the ultimate sacrifice - that of a human life - to demonstrate the virtue of humility, their honour, and thus the success of their nation on the battlefield, would return.

The most ironic part is that most of the kamikaze volunteers were not illiterate peasants, but either officers and/or people with an academic background. Your average "Joe Public" (whatever that is in Japanese) was far too rational to believe in such nonsense and was more concerned with survival, but people who had spent years learning and maintaining centuries-old traditions (were and proud of that) did genuinely believe in the philosophy they had learnt.

Petri Liuhto November 19, 2008 19:01 Flag

Maeby the situation could be similaras as it was in WW2. Nazis have allready destroyed all the sophisticated hightech weapons that the japanise have. Their only option is to tape some explosives on some half-assed rocket and then put some poor guy in a spacesuit piloting it toward the nazi vessels.

Jani Salomaa November 19, 2008 16:53 Flag

See the EU fleet page for a ready-made desing on how it could be done: The Virgin Galactic spacecraft modified for kamikaze use!

A mother airplane would carry the shuttle to launch altitude, and the shuttle would have no landing gear, only a warhead and enough rocket fuel to reach it's target in orbit.

The Japanese actually used this technique in WW2 with the Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka ("Cherry blossom") rocket planes. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohka

Lasse Kleemola November 19, 2008 13:31 Flag

What about remote controlled drones, with stereotypical otakus controlling them from Earth-based control centre? They could have that kind of discussion.

Oskar Lönnberg November 19, 2008 13:11 Flag

Actually it would be nice to listen dialog between two kamikaze drones complaining in a Woody Allen style of life and everything. Something like

- I got this mission to blow up that 5090 thing in sector 12.98
- You did? Mine is not that exiting
- Yeah and they didn't even give me proper bombs, just this level 2 tactical nuclear
- Those greedy installation engineers. Where are they saving the premium stuff
- Don't know but I am going to hit just the left wing tip to only cause minimal damage so those engineers will get the blame - hah

BOOM

This might be too far fetched thou because AI is not that far developed 2018 I think.

Jykke November 19, 2008 09:24 Flag

Kind of expensive and to speak the truth, not practical (atleast not in space). Using missiles does the trick nowadays and might actually be more reliable than kamikaze pilots. But on the other hand.. suicide DRONES might not be a bad idea at all (computer controlled) ..and it would be more of a civilized way of achieving the same result. Any thoughts ?

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Anime Ships As Asked

Here´s ships from allready mentioned Starblazers
http://www.shipschematics.net/yamato/


These videos are far too into usual scifi (rayguns, warp etc) but since it only for ship design...

(My favor)




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Captain Harlock´s ´´Arcadia´´

Toward the Terra ´´Mu Ship ´´

Legend of the Galactic Heroes

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[User has left the building] November 20, 2008 05:56 Flag

Dunno, allthough both do have some minor similarities in designs.

But for comparison:

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/general-requests/22215-legend-galactic-heroes.html

http://www.smallartworks.ca/PS/MBFS/SulaComp.jpg

Lasse Kleemola November 19, 2008 20:20 Flag

Is it just me or does the last ship resemble a certain U.S.S. Sulaco (without the bow weapons)?

Oskar Lönnberg November 19, 2008 13:04 Flag

Cool. I was too lazy to search more, but now there is nice ship schematics and everything :)

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Jykke November 18, 2008 17:41 0 Thumb-ups
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Aibo

Maybe the ships could could have the same feel as the aibo robot.
You can say that it does look like it was made in Japan.

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