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| Created by | Mike Pohjola |
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DescriptionEDIT: New themes include apocalypse and utopias I like to listen to thematically relevant songs whenever I'm writing something. Sometimes I refer to them in the writing itself, and I will have a Playlist at the end of the book. The songs can be in any language, although I only understand Finnish, Swedish, English and German. Feel free to also recommend films, books etc. These are the major themes and styles of Son of Man. I'm looking for recommendations on songs that could be relevant. (In brackets I have some examples, of what I've already got.) growing up in the 80s (Manowar: Wheels of Fire, Kim Wilde: Kids in America)
Any suggestions are welcome! If you can nail several themes with the same song, all the better!
ShotsEmo & Finnish musicAlright, I won't be choosing music that I consider good or bad or even tolerable to listen to, just anything that goes with the themes you mentioned. Dystopia/judgement day: Project Pitchfork - In the Year 2525 (Laibach has the prettier version but the harsh sound fits better I think) Emo/depression/living in the 2000's/Jesus complex: KMFDM - Stray Bullet (also known as the Jokela amok run song) More emo: Jimmy Eat World - Cautioners Also, I notice a lack of Finnish music. First of all the indie rap artists: Steen1 - Sinisiä rappuja ja punaisia hintalappuja (featured in the movie Paha maa)
Then the classics you couldn't avoid in the 80's.. Dingo - Lähetyssaarnaaja
The few religion themed Finnish songs I could think of right away: Freud Marx Engels & Jung - Monenkirjava tilkkutakki
CommentsPretty good! I like the lyrics, and NDH is always close to my heart :) This one's a keeper. More great songsHere's a real load of music you should check out. And this is just a summary walkthrough through my collection. Do inquire about any artist you find intriguing, as what i posted here are just rather most easily accessible songs by that artist. Many have their real gems hidden way below their pop charts... Theme: 1) Sex
2) Dating (I had to scrap most of the candidates here, since there were just too many of 'em to keep this list realistic.)
3) Punk and underground. (sorry, don't know much actual punk, but these are as close as i can get.)
3) Religion and Jesus
4) Graffiti
5) Corruption:
CommentsThanks. Unza unza oppa isn't the same, but has some of the same elements. I'll try to look through the rest of my music to see if i missed anything. Too bad some of them weren't in spotify - but overall i'm amazed how much WAS there. I mean, there was everything from Spanish ska to Finnish rap on the list.. What a great list! Thank you! I've looked them all up on Spotify, and added them to the collaborative Son of Man playlist.
Thanks, Jani! A couple of songsGrowing up in the 80's -All the cheesy italo disco tunes. Artist like My Mine, Kano, Danuta, Savage...even Boys Boys Boys by Sabrina Identity/Graffiti -I grew up listening to rap music. One of my favourite albums was then (and still is) the indie-rap classic "Funcrusherplus" by Company Flow. It's kind of dark and chaotic rap music with lo-fi production and the lyrics have many references to graffiti. They even have song called "Lune Tns" which only about dropping names of graffiti artists. In "8 Steps to perfection" the rappers brag about organized graffiti, that society can't controll. Other works of El-P, the mastermind behind Company flow are interesting as well. -One of the favourite rap groups of my teenage days was also Swedish underground/indie group called LoopTroop. Many of their songs are about graffiti. Just to mention "Ambush In the Night" and "Spraycan Stories", which as much about stealing spraycans as painting graffiti. To an adult their lyrics sound naive, but case of a 16-year-old boy was completely different. Both Compaly Flow and LoopTroop had the "fuck the society"-attitude and anarchistic political message. Corrupt local politics/Identity There is a ton of rap songs about corrupted/racistic/violent police departments. Maybe the "Fuck the Police" by N.W.A is official anti-police anthem. Yeah, I took a lot of influences from that song as well, when I was searching my identity. CommentsThis shot doesn't have comments. DubstepI first posted this one to wrong place. I'm sorry for that. Feel free to delete my first post. Anyway... When it comes to living in the 2000's, dubstep is probably the most significant new music genre. The sound of dubstep is hard to describe, but in a nutshell it's deep, dark and often very bass-heavy electronic music originating from London. The genre is not album-oriented and the easiest way to get stuff is just to google "dubstep mix mp3" and get a mix to download. Mixes differ from each other - just like the whole thing. There is danceable (but still deep, dark and gloomy) "party" music and there is non dance-oriented music. The dubstep album, that I would recommend is "Untrue" by Burial, that someone has described being "the soundtrack of rainy and empty city of London at night". The album contains only very few vocals (all sampled) and it's more about electronic sound walls about feeling of being desperate and alone in urban environment and looking for love and friendship. CommentsNice idea, I think... I've never really listened to any dubstep, but will begin with Untrue! Me and Pink FloydWhen I left home for studies and become independent, there were a couple of bands that made (and still make) the soundtrack of my life. For you I recommend Pink Floyd; especially High Hopes from Division Bell. That would fall probably into the emo category. CommentsAfter some googling I found from http://www.queststudios.com/quest/classics.html Leisure Suit Larry (In The Land Of The Lounge Lizards)
Check out the general midi Larry Theme http://www.queststudios.com/agi/lslagi_1.zip ...ah... the memories =) From Pink Floyd I've only really listened to the Wall. Will look up High Hopes, thanks! American Jesus, how could I forget that! Any song with Jesus in the title is a must. ...Al Lowe wrote music? Come on! Are you kidding me? Also American Jesus by Bad Religion (Jesus category), Master of the Winds by Manowar (emo roleplaying).. ...and For your thighs only by Al Lowe (from Leisuresuit Larry, playboy/80's ;)
ComplyI have a process some what like this when writing. When I'm listening to a song I find a chapter in my book that relates to it and just start writing. I like to listen to just about anything from Tool. I think they fit under identity/roleplaying/changing.
Living in 2000 could be Slipknot.
Will name others if you have more genres in mind. CommentsThis shot doesn't have comments. Melancholy to add to the mixIf you want to have some slow pace moodiness in the book, look no further than Elliott Smith, Nick Drake and Jeff Buckley. For example, Elliott's song Waltz No. 2 on the album XO is a masterpiece in melancholy songwriting. "I'm never gonna know you, now, but i'm gonna love you anyhow", sings he with appropriate passion. Drake's pre-suicide album Pink Moon is about the saddest thing i've ever heard. And Buckley's only album 'Grace' has unlimited power to it. Songs 'Last Goodbye' and the famous Cohen cover 'Hallelujah' should show you the way to this way-too-early-departed genious. CommentsJani; I just got hold of Neon Bible, and it's indeed an excellent album! Intervention will definitely make it on my novel's playlist, probably some other songs as well... And yet another one for different effect: If you want some naughty, naughty, nasty, nasty ambience in your book, there's nothing better than Vanessa Daou's album "Zipless" to tease you. When she whispers sweetly "beCOMING a nun, beCOMING a nun, beCOMING a nun", i bet you'll have hard time keeping your monk gown on! Oh! A great one for the Jesus & religion category: Arcade Fire's fantastic album Neon Bible!!! And especially the song Intervention, which combines church organs, rock, and a tale about an fallen priest to a chilling degree. Waltz #2 is about an altogether failed and miserable artist guy, who happens to see his once-upon-a-time high school sweetheart going out with her new upper class husband. Althought the girl is dressed elegant, she is out of place. The husband treats her like a prostitute. And the girl is wrecked. ("She shows no emotion at all / stares into space like dead China doll") In fact, despite all the gloss, money and fancy suits, she is in a worse state than our story's piss-poor protagonist. Finally our hero despairs, because he can't find the strength to rise up to the kind of rich bastards like the girl's husband. ( I'm no good, i'm no good, i'm no good - can't you tell, that it's well understood). That's songwriting for ya!!! I've started listening to these... Waltz #2 is an interesting mix of very sad lyrics and a strangely upbeat folkish melody. Have to listen to it a couple more times to make sure I get it :) I've never listened to these artists. Will do so shortly, and comment on them in more detail. Thanks! Few albums and songsgrowing up in the 80s: David Bowie - Young Americans; Judas Priest - Breaking the Law (actually the whole Painkiller-album), Billy Idol - Cyberpunk-album; Kauko Röyhkä - Disko-Datsun. living in the 2000s: Rammstein - Amerika identity/roleplaying/changing: Mr. Bungle - Vanity Fair gothic/emo/guys with make-up: Marilyn Manson - Antichrist Superstar -album Jesus/religion: Laibach's album "Jesus Christ Superstar" is all about Jesus and christian religion. playboy/pick-up artist: There I would suggest definitively: Scissor Sisters: Ta-Dah. corrupt local politics: Shitter Limited's music in general. CommentsI've started listening to these. Added Rammstein's Amerika on my playlist, and Manson's The Not So Beautiful People, although that's from a different album. Excellent suggestions! Most of these I know vaguely, but don't have in my own music library. Unsurprisingly, very few bands write songs about local politics in a universal way, so your idea there is very useful! Songs that make ideas flow"The River" Nick Kershaw
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Fine list, Anna. Great job finding fitting Finnish music.
I'm sick and tired of the artists, but many of the songs are just beautiful.
Well, the song Lapsuuden usko has been covered by several artists, it's originally '500 Miles' that was done by at least The Hooters. Just the version I happened to find.
Mikko Leppilampi? What kind of man do you take me for?! :)
Glad that you liked those, may I suggest more of the same genre then:
Pekka Ruuska - Anna mun etsiä
Mikko Leppilampi - Lapsuuden usko
Edu Kettunen - Lentäjän poika
Miljoonasade - Lapsuuden sankarille
Hector - Lumi teki enkelin eteiseen; Olen hautausmaa <-- check out the lyrics, he sings "Olen Jeesus-lapsi ilman Mariaa.. olen Raamattu uus".
edit: Samuli Edelmann - Kirkossa
Don McLean - American Pie
Simon & Garfunkel - Mrs. Robinson
Great list, thanks Anna!
I've added all I could find on the Spotify playlist that you can access here: http://open.spotify.com/user/revontuli/playlist/4fpOVEAOnU8ayxZGrnV84K
Unfortunately In the Year 2525 could be found as neither PP or Laibach version...
Stray Bullet I'm gonna save for another project (also a book in the works) since this book ends in 2004 and the Finnish school shootings came later...
Special kudos for Rafaelin enkeli and Sudenkorento, they're great for this!
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