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Created at September 15, 2009
Created by Gert-Jan Van de Voorde
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Carl L. April 26, 2010 02:51 1 Thumb-up
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How about they recreate the philadelphia experiment?

...and land in 1947, Antarctica...

No, seriously now. Maybe they're conspiracy-buffs, and decide to recreate 'Project Rainbow'. They wrap the sub in wires, and create magnetic fields that rip them through space-time. They could land pretty much anywhere y'all want.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread171719/pg1
http://www.crystalinks.com/phila.html
http://www.bielek.com/albielek.htm
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq21-1.htm

EDIT: This ties in with Nikola Tesla's Time Travel Experiments!
http://uforeview.tripod.com/teslatime/teslatimetravel.html

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With his experiments in high-voltage electricity and magnetic fields, Tesla discovered that time and space could be breached, or warped, creating a "doorway" that could lead to other time frames. But with this monumental discovery, Tesla also discovered, through personal experience, the very real dangers inherent with time travel.

Tesla's first brush with time travel came in March 1895. A reporter for the New York Herald wrote on March 13 that he came across the inventor in a small café, looking shaken after being hit by 3.5 million volts, "I am afraid," said Tesla, "that you won't find me a pleasant companion tonight. The fact is I was almost killed today. The spark jumped three feet through the air and struck me here on the right shoulder. If my assistant had not turned off the current instantly in might have been the end of me."

Tesla, on contact with the resonating electromagnetic charge, found himself outside his time-frame reference. He reported that he could see the immediate past - present and future, all at once. But he was paralyzed within the electromagnetic field, unable to help himself. His assistant, by turning off the current, released Tesla before any permanent damage was done. A repeat of this very incident would occur years later during the Philadelphia Experiment. Unfortunately, the sailors involved were left outside their time-frame reference for too long with disastrous results...
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Carl L. April 26, 2010 03:13 Flag

Yes, I know it's been done. Twice.
But they did a poor job...

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Stefan Kropidlowski Larsson July 17, 2010 20:32 1 Thumb-up
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nazi submarine in search for the aryan origin?

If the ww2 theme still appeals, the submarine could have been sent out to find the aryan origin (just like special units searched for it in the tibetan montains if i'm right) - namely, atlantis, the sunken city, to find proof for the igeology's foundation of racial surpremacy.

Combine this with Alexander Vervaet's latest idea of encountering a strange form of power.

After those incidents, they could be stranded in some sub-terranean cavity where the lost city lies, presumably deserted. At first they find indications that the mission is a success, should they return, that is, but then finds secrets beyond their ideology which also should pose a threat not only to what they believe in but also to their lives.

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Gert-Jan Van de Voorde July 18, 2010 13:41 Flag

Stefan Kropidlowski Larsson you have interesting idea's.
I'll make a new task for possible synopsis's.

Stefan Kropidlowski Larsson July 17, 2010 20:39 Flag

I also like Vervaet's idea of a technologically much more advanced atlantis, but the main difference would be, that some sort of apocalypse had wiped out the human population of atlantis. hostile creatures (maybe machines built in in man's own image) could lurk around the hi-tech ruins.

I personally would like to tie the downfall of atlantis with biblical themes such as adam & eve's exile from eden, the fruits of knowledge etc.

they could find paintings, carvings etc of the serpent mentioned in the same part, as a threatening beast. although the serpent is highly symbolical, the team might believe it is a real, physical threat.

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Stefan Kropidlowski Larsson July 17, 2010 21:09 1 Thumb-up
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real-size sub

nothing storylinerelated, and if the ww2 theme is the way to go, this won't count, but anyway:

We've got a cold-war submarine permanently docked in our harbor. If any submarine movie project is well through-thought enough i'm sure there's a possibility to apply for using it as prop. Not all too many miles away (on the other coast of sweden), there's also an enormous underground facility for reparation of damaged subs (i think the kitchen has ability to serve 3000 persons). It was meant to be the last stand if the cold war would break out. Permission to film there has been granted before, as most of the facility isn't either secret nor in use anymore.

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Stefan Kropidlowski Larsson July 17, 2010 20:23 0 Thumb-ups
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Language of the third reich.

I've got a handy book at home called 'lingua terti imperii' (language of the third reich) which is one of my favourites i always come back to. It was written by a jewish linguist who, because of his expertice, was allowed to stay in germany under restrictions and superveillance. In secret, he wrote a diary where he commented on the changes in the german language which eventually turned out to be the book i've got.

If you need consulting regarding the language and how it formed the thinking in the third reich, i'm all in with all i can offer.

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Alexander Vervaet November 28, 2009 12:37 1 Thumb-up
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New idea

Since my previous idea seems to be aged I am going to give it another shot:

They are stumbling a bit around at the ocean floor when their scientific equipment (make it a small high tech sub) notice a strange power source, as soon as they enter the power field there are power fluctuations or power spikes (whatever it is, it sounds cool) inside the reactor (if they have one) and they are suddenly teleported to somewhere else. Where they arrive is still a mystery but I am sure someone is going to have a superb idea and post it.

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Aaron Agassi February 28, 2010 20:56 0 Thumb-ups

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Aaron Agassi March 20, 2010 16:24 Flag

really frustrating

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Gert-Jan Van de Voorde March 01, 2010 17:00 Production Leader 2 Thumb-ups
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Plot suggestion (but it's not complete)

I've been thinking awhile and I think it's time to rewrite the plot in the line Aaron Agassi suggested.
Setting: somewhere in the future.
Location: Western-Europe

Europe has fallen into poverty and Asia has spotted a new market in the world: the newly upcoming power of Africa.
The Europeans are angered that they, who have meant so much for the world are now put aside and the Governments of the Europe decide unify completely in order to be stronger and before the last funds are gone. In these days the archives of all the governments will be relocated in the European capital (which is still Brussels). It is now the job of a selected team of linguists and professors to sort out the rubbish from the useful documents. A young professor who is recruited because he speaks fluent German finds in the German administration a document which is clearly rubbish but he decides to keep it so he can show it to his small group of students. (Note that the document is written in 1980 by an Eastern-German official, it's directed to Moscow and cites an older series of Nazi-documents about the search of this artifact)
The document speaks about an artifact that has unimaginable powers, not only it brings wealth but it is also a weapon of great value. The students who are still young and thus able to be blinded by fairy tales are very interested in this artifact. They set out on a quest to find the rest of the document, unfortunately they only find what this Eastern-German official said about it, and he states that the submarine transporting this artifact sank for some reason, but the exact location wasn't given only a place where it could be.
After finding enough information the youngsters want to get their own submarine, but don't have the funds to buy one: so they build their own based on the plans of German U-boats they find (the only plans they could get easily) and build their own sub adapted for searching the seas.
And...

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Aaron Agassi March 12, 2010 13:42 Flag

An economically devastated Europe unites in the face of new adversity, to reduce duplicated efforts and save money. And so, all manner of archives are consolidated in Brussels, capital of the European Union. There, amid the massive work of cross-reference, are discovered researches into old Nazi documents, in particular the secret mission of an advanced prototype glass bottomed u-boat for continental shelf exploration, lost on her maiden expedition. But the details are sketchy. And this piques the interest of a bright and ambitious junior researcher. But this is the back story, initially secret for those engineering grad students kept in the dark regarding the forensic archeology, with no real idea just what they are actually working on, the truth only coming to light most dramatically later on. Initially, there are only tantalizing incongruities in the design from which the engineering grad students thanklessly labor.

As to where we are going with this (or working backwards from) nothing very new or specific yet suggests itself. It may be that another concept entirely is required, the vehicle, literally and figuratively, being somewhat incidental.

Perhaps the real purpose of the expedition is simply to loot archeological treasure the way the Nazi's had intended, so our heroes conspire to foil their greedy professor's plans, and get the site into the control of a nearby museum. But the museum is actually a front for the Neo Nazi investors the professor hoped to double-cross by taking everything for himself. After all, what's wrong with robbing Nazi robbers so imbedded into the ostensibly proper channels? In the end, they all have to be rescued, even the Neo Nazis after escalating conflict ends up with the u-boat disabled underwater! by Jewish Nazi hunters having fortuitously infiltrated the entire operation from the beginning. Moreover, except for the fortuitous rescue, this parallels the fate of the original prototype u-boat, infiltrated by Allied agents, the wreck of which the discover and must salvage from. But the treasure, alas, is another important Essene artifact raising challenge of conventional Hebrew Testament history, doomed therefore to be suppressed by the State of Israel.

(null) March 02, 2010 13:05 Flag

"And..."

...then the film happens. :)

One possible approach might be to now think about the end of the film, and then work backwards to how it begins.

Or you could change the focus of the film to concentrate on the backstory itself?

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Aaron Agassi February 27, 2010 01:31 1 Thumb-up
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'Africa Paradis.' prequil?

I take it that these are fairly high level mechanical engineering students with the wherewithal to duplicate a German u-boat. And for the resources, they must be grad students working with a professor of some sort of corporate sponsored project. But to what end? Forensic archeology? But what don't we really know about u-boats? And don't we still have any preserved and operational u-boats in museums, indeed dating from both world wars? http://www.uboataces.com/articles-uboat-museum.shtml

Does it really need to be a replica u-boat? What if the basic u-boat design was simply repurposed and adapted for anything else, such as ocean research or even just reef site seeing with more glass? Then again, maybe such is just the cover story. Maybe it's a more specific u-boat special prototype, indeed with a great deal of period duplicated heavy glass, that they seek to recreate, for whatever forensic archeology into some or other arcane Nazi research. Then, perhaps in seeking to duplicate whatever lost Nazi expedition, they end up discovering some submerged artifact that summarily discharges a massive electrometric pulse as they approach, and they only survive because their anachronistic sub is not computerized. Only their laptops and cell phones get fried. And perhaps that's what sets back the America! Indeed, I see no reason that 'The Submarine Project' could not be set within the continuity the likes of 'Africa Paradis.' Perhaps licensing could even be obtained as part of a promotional exchange.

But what about conflict? Romantic rivalry? Intrigue and suspense?

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Aaron Agassi February 27, 2010 13:01 Flag

I suspect that their professor and maybe a favorite teaching assistant might be motivated by the lost Macguffin, not to mention the forensic archeologists, historians and corporate military industrial sponsors and even Thule Society stooges still lurking about, but not the engineering grad students kept in the dark. The teaching assistant is sweet on one of the grad students, longing to share the secret! Europe is also soon quite literally in the dark after that electrometric pulse, giving Africa the lead.

Gert-Jan Van de Voorde February 27, 2010 08:47 Flag

Your idea's are very interesting.
No, it doesn't need to be an U-boat (that was just an idea) your idea about the lost Nazi expedition is great and using the U-boat could be just used as a cheap reference to build their own.

As for thee conflicts, romantic rivalry, intrigue and suspense. We don't have a fixed story yet so I can't tell much about that.
Africa Paradis is interesting indeed, so the whole project could be based upon finding an mysterious Nazi artifact somewhere deep in the Atlantic that could be the clue for Europe to become prosperous again (even by selling it) so the group would be an international group of young students who are all fascinated by this artifarct (that, according to the serious historians doesn't exist). If we proceed in the line of Africa Paradis most of the necessary recourses would be stolen.
Perhaps this artifact would be a powersource so strong that Europe wouldn't need to buy electricity, oil, etc anymore.

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Johan Löfström January 31, 2010 11:48 0 Thumb-ups
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Change in paradigm

While they have been gone something have changed?

I am very inspired by this movie-plot: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0899129/
it is something thought-provoking that africans is not always poor and trying to escape to the north.
Or could an american (submarine) accidentaly destroy some building in a middle-eastern country, that makes that country so mad that they go to United Nations and try to start an invasion of Manhattan. or California...

While a crew travels in a submarine, a long distance, anything, even the power of the world can change, in dramatic ways to create comedy or very serious thoughts for the viewer.

My thoughts are also applicable on a space trip, kind of "planet of the apes"

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Alexander Vervaet November 29, 2009 11:24 3 Thumb-ups
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They also could discovered a secret research facility at the bottom of the sea.

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