| Created at | June 16, 2008 |
| Created by | Timo Vuorensola |
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| Shots given | 77 |
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General ideas
DescriptionThis task is so-called idea dump for random ideas that you get, but won't actually answer any task out there. So - you know the concept, there are Nazis on the Moon - and sky's the limit. Hit me with what you've got!
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What would Nazi computers look likeCame across this article showing old computers: Pretty interesting and nice interfaces and some of them look like they would belong to Nazies. Attached two which look something I could imagine to be found from moon base and Nazi battle ships. (See also Screen of death shot also: http://www.wreckamovie.com/shots/show/1093) 
Screen of deathOn SWT:ItP there were some funny texts running on the screens. Something similar should undoubtedly appear on Iron Sky, too. And one case I was pondering today, while hacking my Linux system, is something suitable for some utmost critical moment: A Screen of death. In SW:ItP the Excavator comp booted, and it could be found out on a screen the central computer was a poor AT with just 128kB memory and stuff... In 2018 the comps will undoubtedly be running on... Linux? In that case, at the most critical moment before a boot, a screen could be quite visibly saying simply... "Kernel panic." ;) Thereafter the situation could obviously go all panicking... CommentsWhat if the "Screen of Death" means that the operator of the computer has fatally failed in his job, and is facing "early retirement"... "Das Boot, bitte." Hmmm... Who has said the nazis weren't MORE advanced than we are in computer technology? They could have had theories of quantum computing highly advanced, as they did have the best physicists in quantum physics. They could actually have been designing some form of a quantum computer already in 1940s.... In that case they sure would have found out, how to present text on a screen, too. As well as pictures. (They did have closed circuit monitor technology already in use in Peenemünde.) Found pretty interesting old computer interfaces - see shot http://www.wreckamovie.com/shots/show/1097. How would you implement Screen of death in those :) Some nice light patterns making a some not so gentle words maybe ...
Maybe not Nerdy...
For the F'ing' UbOOtmen: 'Oberst. Bekommen England...' Alternatively... 'Erlangt einen tag frei bekommen... Panik... Oberst?...' Hah haa :) "Kaputt. Alles verloren." Natürlich. ;) Nerdy :) But what would be seen on Nazi screens ...
Optical quantum computer?What if the nazis had actually been designing a completely different type of computer technology in 1940s? Germans did have legions of great scientists, especially physicists, who could have created something very different from what we have. They might not have relied on similar technologies as we've been stuck on, but something of their own, which would actually be much BETTER than what our crappy transistor-based computers are capable of. Germans were especially world-best in quantum physics, and their optics engineering was next to none. They might have been secretly designing optical quantum computers, scientific principles of which current scientists only are dreaming of pulling together nowadays. http://www.businessweek.com/bw50/2001/tech_optical.htm Nazis having had such computing technology available would explain a whole lot of stuff in the movie. And such optical computers could obviously be highly visual, glowing in colorful lights like those computers tuned up by enthusiasts. In that case the nazi computers could be visually very fascinating. They could very well look something like this: http://tuningpecet.ovh.org/galeria/galeria7.jpg
Or even:
In fact, this would make it possible, that the Moon Nazis actually were supernerds and "rulers of the matrix"... And that would give the movie a whole new twist! CommentsHuman psychology will pretty much cry out for stimuli in a long-term restricted environment, so yes, some *unexpected* touches of colour will be appreciated by the inhabitants. But necessarily, a designer of equipment would need to consider colour schemes in instrument lighting that would harmonize and not clash, nor be excessively glaring. Green, blue, white, and probably yellow and amber lights--and blendings of these--for the computers as well as indirect room illumination would be good. Interestingly enough, I remember one of the staff lounges at
The rose pink illumination was initally startling because of the novelty of the colour, but the longer I remained in the room, the more soothing and calming it became. Well, those pictures were of tuned-up computers, but the colours of nazi computers could be due necessity because of the nature of the technology used and not intended as such. I admit also my first thought of a typical nazi computer would be something grey and mechanic like those telephone centers depicted in the other shot. But who knows they actually did develop something scientifically totally different like optical quantum computers indeed. Such equipment could look visually extremely fancy. And in that case the nazis could actually have a huge advantage in information technology, not lagging. They might actually be the true governors of the Matrix... Crazy colors :) The computer tech is something which might be quite different from ours. But I am imagining Nazi technology look dull and gray due to the military origins. There have to be clear function and camouflage is important. No standout colors etc. Then again when Nazies have been 70 years on the moon without any real enemies on the moon. So they might have developed some fondness for some bright colors to make some contrast for the colorless moon landscape. Can't help imagining some high officer with pink uniform :) or neon yellow uniform ... 
Re: What would Nazi computers look likeThis week I had a task in school about parallel computing and it came to my mind when I saw this topic. One of the first vector supercomputers was Cray-1 (1976), which was later followed by Cray-2 (1985). I think these computers might have the feel of some of the computers nazis could use in the film. They could work as the central computers of the nazi space-crafts and they would also work as base main computers. The first 2 pictures are of the Cray-1 computer, on the third picture is Cray-2 
CommentsThe steel looking Cray with all hydraulic cooling showing is nice.
November 20, 2008 02:27
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Earth SupportersThere should be some Earth supporters who know of the Nazi's arrival. There is a high concentration of Nazi-supporters on Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Should there be government officials involved. Parliamentarian officials should have arranged a coup d'etat in order to have a "smooth" transition of power. The Kärntner Heimatdienst (Carinthian Homeland Service) of Austria would arrange a push, opposite to the German Lebensraum, or "Living Space". Neo-Nazi across the US should be supporters as well. The American Nazi Party would be a massive asset. This is all just my ramblings. CommentsJack "Because they own technological superiority, they wish to keep it secret" When an unidentified blip is seen on every radar screen across the globe, planes would be dispatched, shoot it down, and gain their technology. The jig's up. '"Nuf said" Ben. 'There is something called UFOs,' according to your 'Radar.' Nuf said. And you're right I have read the forums. Ben. 'There is something called UFOs,' according to your 'Radar.' Nuf said. Well, since there is something known as Radar, so someone will find out about their presence. Also, there are other space fleets in the works: read the forums.
MooNazis will never enact overt control...
November 23, 2008 14:03
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Diverging Development We need to remember that our moon nazies left the Earth 73 years before they return in 2018. That means that they get to spend 73 years developing the tech that they were able to bring with them. Artificial Gravity(AG), a must for large ships and to have any hope of maintaining bone and muscle mass after three generations on the moon. The Nazi fleet should reflect thinking that was common during WWII. Their ships should be AG propelled flying battle ships. Large flying saucers with heavy gun turrets. The AG controlled environment also means that the gravity can be dialed up to higher then earth norm to make stronger troops. (However this would also cause them to be shorter and have sagging anatomy.)
While back on Earth, we have heavy aerospace craft that look like a cross between WWII bombers and the space shuttles. Every super power has a few squadrons of these heavy ships as an extension of cold war thinking(We should have one, just in case we need it, hmm they have one so we should have a few more, just in case.) So when the Nazies come we have ships ready to fight in orbit. While our advanced electronics would be vulnerable to strong electromagnetic fields (Don't fly too close to the Nazi ships) the Nazi's would find themselves disadvantaged against superior numbers and weapons. 
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Easter eggs (antiblunder)I was reading news about the new James Bond release just a minute ago. One of the major parts of that piece of news was a list of the blunders found - some of which really didn't sound like blunders after all. That made me recall, how enthusiastically fans were picking up various blunders in SW:ItP, when it was fresh. Obviously that will happen once again, when Iron Sky will be released. Now, in SW:ItP part of the best "blunders" were obviously not actual blunders but made on purpose. Tracking them was perhaps the most fun part of all. I'll be enthusiastically looking forward to hunting them myself, and I bet many other fans are, too. One special type of Easter egg I have in mind is an "antiblunder" a bit in Monty Python style, where something completely out-of-time and/or irrelevant to the film would be happening in the background, although still subtly enough not to steal attention from the foreground. Something like a wrist watch in wrong place, but what couldn't actually by any means be a mistake because it'd be something no one would or even could ever simply have "forgotten". It'd be so much out of any context, that any observer noticing it could only ponder "Why the heck is it there? It cannot be a blunder, but it has nothing to do in that context!" Say, Monty Python had suddenly knights fighting in the background in modern surroundings, which was (too) obviously on purpose. In Iron Sky there might be, say, WW I (that's World War One!) time tanks in the background, for instance. Such would obviously be in wrong time for the movie, but it would obviously also be out of this time and couldn't possibly be there just accidentally! (That's a big one. The "blunders" should rather be much smaller, but you got the idea.) Something funny in these lines might be, for instance, someone calling with an ancient phone. You know those huge machines on the wall, which cannot be seen anywhere but in museums nowadays. (Nokia might even want to pay for a joke, where the caller would be telling to someone after the call: "I wish I had a Nokia phone!" ) CommentsOne "easter egg" would be the spacecraft "Alexei Leonov" flying to Earth and when nazi saucers are filling the spece between earth and moon there appears that "Alexei Leonov" from the Jupiter-mission of the movie 2010. And some copies of the mystical enigmatic black stone... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzNu9wUO-YM This Iron Sky is a serious movie, very serious... ;) (And so was 2001 and 2010 too!)
Maybe, if there would be coverage of MooNazi spy education...
Another of these Easter egg would be to have another ship in the fleet like theier could be the Poktustart somewhere in the background, like they did with the Millenium Falcon in First Contact. I love this idea: > "Something funny in these lines might be, for instance, someone calling with an ancient phone. You know those huge machines on the wall, which cannot be seen anywhere but in museums nowadays. (Nokia might even want to pay for a joke, where the caller would be telling to someone after the call: "I wish I had a Nokia phone!" )" =) I am laughing just having the picture in my mind. I agree, Nokia might be willing to pay and all. This idea reminds me of the easter egg in the pilot episode of the original Battlestar Galactica. When Cylon Raiders are seen flying over Caprica City and diving to attack, there is a split-second shot where the city lights are arranged in a pattern that clearly reads "F--- OFF" The censors have obviously missed that every time because the shot is both in the syndicated TV copy and the DVD release.
BunkersFor contrast to what Nazi bunkers and space colony will look like we could add something like this for earth military head quarters: A nice Swedish data center somewhere deep in underground. According to the pictures in the article this is really a place where I could spend some time when the rest of the world is bombed to pieces ... CommentsThis shot doesn't have comments.
November 14, 2008 07:42
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Ironic endingThe closing scenes of the film could take place back in Schwartze Sonne. In fact, when we first see the base at the beginning of the film, I envision that we see it in a panning panorama shot, much like in the teaser. Now, for the "epilogue", we see a similar shot, but the base is visibly much different - there is a big "tube" for downhill skiing along the crater walls, "Lunar Hilton", a casino, huge low-G sports arena, with a British Airways lunar lander sitting on the launchpad. In short, after the Nazis have lost the war again, their base has been taken over and converted into a holiday resort. We are then shown some of the German protagonists, sitting in a local Bierkeller drinking Mondbräu. A discussion takes place: one could wonder, why they did not decide to invade Earth earlier, so that they would have lost sooner and the loss brought many good things. Another might question, whether it is better to believe in a twisted ideology than have no belief at all, just mindless consumerism. The third might think aloud, whether the change is so big after all, maybe the oppressive ideology and social control are just more subtle; people don't have to be controlled, they do it themselves. CommentsFunny.
I would think that a US Army General would recommend that the US take over MooNazi operations as pilots of UFOs but continue the disguise as Nazis so as to attract any 'rogue' think tanks that might be in the business of 'pure evil.' There is a real opportunity to poke fun of the Americans with this film. What people waste so much happiness and so enjoy reveling in ignorance than Americans? Perhaps Americans might recommend to bury the end of the MooNazis with a report that the MooNazi base blew up when it tried to take off itself (!) in an attempt to create and enter a worm-hole (!!) Meanwhile, the Americans steal off with all the leading MooNazis and subject them to cloning and endless questioning which they plagiarize to sell science fiction books... 
is it good or bad your choiseI think the nazi shoud get to germany and get the germans to back to nazism again and teach how to build past/modern spaceships and wepons and all what in the world in war needed (I mean the old wepons the WW II wepons but pimped up like a 50mm canon shots a same 50mm e.g. plasmacoil carpetbomb or something wild like the spaceships are torbo twinjet zeppelins ) this time they aren´t try concuer the world it´s this time the whole universum (for example they go to a ice planet and discover a another form of lifeform e.g. jetis and they get to nazi slavery and they will at the end concuer the nazi world and themm become the ruler ofthe universum and the remaining nazi escape to deep to new universums ). It shound have a bit idea but i wrotet this at 02:34 i suddenly wake up and it was in my head (i import later pictures) Comments
silly does a comedy make, true. which is sillier, going to conquer an ice planet of yetis or seeking open war with a population of 5 billion? i submit, the second. conquering an ice planet would be an easy mission and therefore a beneficial training ground.
The beginning has a good point; how does Germany react to information of space nazis? Current situation seems to be very very embarrased; they don't talk about nazi history at all, basically.. So I would say they want to get rid of the newly found nazis as well; they represent the shame of WW2. Space nazis might have some influence on neo-nazis etc and cause some rebellious movements inside the governments. The yeti part is just plain silly.. Even space nazis aren't able to travel to outer space and other galaxies. And as we know at the moment, there are no life-supporting planets close enough anyway. They only had about 70 years to go there, slave space yetis and come back.. |
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(jaw hits floor)
Directions on how to build...a replica Apollo Guidance Computer...?!?
Oh...my...gods.
Wow.
And some more..
http://cleantechnica.com/files/2008/04/old-computer.jpg
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/images/old-stock-computer.jpg
http://www.spacedaily.com/images/computer-nasa-old-bg.jpg
http://www.mattresspolice.com/images/supercomputer.jpg
http://www.bowsplusarrows.com/uploaded_images/supercomputer.jpg
Here's a cool looking computer with a twist of retro feeling in it. Might be used as workstations ?
I like the old telephone center. it has nice visual style and also there is a clear function when all discussion is listened i.e. basic dictatorship procedure.
I found some pictures of mechanic telephone switches I meant in the previous comment:
http://www.connected-earth.com/Galleries/Telecommunicationsage/Thetelephone/Developingthetelephone/MUS0243n.jpg
http://lahosken.san-francisco.ca.us/departures/nz/0/3430_exchange_tm.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/214/456060217_c517a00e5a.jpg
And actually, after the development for decades, their supercomputer could look like this: http://www.desco.uk.com/images/projects/industry/orange1_t.jpg
Noooo... Nazs would obviously have used telephone center technology, which was state of the art in information technology in 1940s.
This picture is from the old telephone center of Budapest:
http://budapest.travel/js/tiny_mce/plugins/ajaxfilemanager/uploaded/Transport/telefon.jpg
I'm sure the handy nazi engineers did automatize such centers, after which networks of automatic switches could form huge computers. (AFAIK some early computers actually did use such technology!)
Here´s some sturdy beauty: Apollo Quidance Computer
http://www.galaxiki.org/web/main/_blog/all/build-your-own-nasa-apollo-landing-computer-no-kidding.shtml
And instructions to make such a thing http://klabs.org/history/build_agc/
I think it would also look nice, if the Nazi would have this old tech mixed newer stuff they stole or shopped on Earth.
Simply fly to Earth, go to next MediaMarkt and buy some computers, TV, cameras and other electronic. (Normal PCs are good enough to control a spaceship)
And there is your next UFO-Sighteeing.
A very good shot here, this is actually something we've been thinking - so do keep on pushing ideas here!
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