|Created at||May 29, 2009|
|Created by||Mikko Sillanpää|
|Deadline||December 31, 2009: over 3 years over|
|Wreckupations||3D Artist, Actor, Composer, Director, Film Editor, Producer, Sound Designer, Sound Editor, Writer, Lighting, Graphic Designer, Cinemato- and photographer, Concept / Storyboard Artist, Marketing / PR, Prop / Set Builder, VFX / SFX Artist, Make-up Artist|
For the website and other purposes we need a motion poster. It has to be able to present the three aspects of high-quality we aim: research, artistic and technical.
The specs for it are:
-Latin speaking character dressed in historically accurate clothing in historically accurate environment
-A dramatic scene lasting 5-30 seconds during which the huge potential of the project is demonstrated by stunning audio-visual quality and academic excellence
-wide-screen aspect ratio, not vertical
So what we need:
-a character and event
-visual design and execution
Feel free to comment, the specs are not anyhow inflexible, they are just a start for the discussion.
I'm interested of contributing to this task. I would love to do music for this.
I recently found this, it's of a game more a adaptaion of a game called Rome Total Realism
I think we have reached a point where we can start making some tests, maybe try out some of the ideas presented here. What I would like to do is to film a simple test version of the video material to see if the idea of super-slow motion works.
So what we need:
-A person dressed in toga (normal citizen or curule magistrate) and tunica (laticlavius).
-A person with camera (cheap DV-cam is perfectly OK, because this is just a test).
-Place where to film this.
I have myself used to do multicolumn manuscripts, so I'll attach here a PDF version. I have done it in Omni Outliner, so if anyone here uses it too, I can send the original file also for comments and modification.
About the practical arrangements, I have toga and suitable tunica and I can also be filmed for the test, but for the final version we need a professional actor, or at least someone with experience in acting. So I just need someone for the camera. Also we need someone to edit the test version. I can do something in iMovie, but that's the limits of my skills.
So, when, where, and by who, we shoot the test version? Who will edit the material?
Making movies is schanging a lot, I see. Here I go again:
Only a oil lamp flame is seen. the backround is darky. Then the lens moves a little backwards (the flame becomes blurry) a person in Roman clothes (a toga and a tunica will do but I don't know if we should give them daily colors or the senatorial purple and white) he is writing the text of possible idea 2 is said
After that he said this he gets hit in his back and the blood spreds over the table and Nobilitas appears.
Its getting fun here.
PS why not use Quae carte ora cuore nostra as tagline (I hope it existed already in the republic)
I think that the emotion needs to be there. In the ideas presented by Gert-Jan it has been mainly on the level of speak (and/or text), while Timo and Jack brought emotion in the visual side. Both are good approaches.
In the medium of motion poster we can have only a very limited possibilities to use moving image, this is not a teaser nor trailer after all. We also will have very limited production resources.
Toga is a fine symbol for this work, it is more widely recognised than e.g. funerary images of ancestors. Painting in rich hues is also a good one because one persistent image we need to fight against is the myth of "white marble of antiquity".
As such I think all the ideas presented this far are good. What I think we need to embrace is the unity of nobilitas and also internal tensions within it.
I'd say that Timos' idea with Gert-Jan's text/speech would be a killer combination, but murder in the Senate floor is a bit too much, we need to change that. I'm wondering if we can link this to some real event, but perhaps it'd be overkill. We need to build milieu as well as possible, e.g. having oil lamp or couple of other everyday objects present would give a lot of convincing authenticy if done well.
agreeing with 'overly dramatic' potential here...
The flowing robes of power symbolize nobilitas as a Toga - in stone -
getting painted by an artisan...
Yelling signals a murder over the brush strokes of the artist who slowly takes notice of the profuse bleeding drenching some white toga squirming on the ground...
The artisan continues shading and painting the statue in rich hues and colors
as a crowd gathers and a speech begins...
My idea is, as follows.
A slow-motion shot opening into a layered toga-like white clot that's slowly moving. We are in extreme closeup, so we don't know too much what's happening, but the camera slowly moves on to reveal more of details, a hand that's clutching a scroll, and slowly we see heavy drops of red appearing on the cloth. The camera pulls back a bit, but the lens keeps only the very closest elements in focus, everything in the back or the front is blurred. We find out that this is a super-slow-motion shot of a person dropping on his knees, wearing a traditional Roman high-class men dress in a senate, and falling backwards, holding his chest with a knife on it. The camera moves past the dying character, and reveals the sandals and the toga of another person.
Slowly, "Nobilitas" -text appears.
This is a tad over-dramatic, I know, but just something that popped into my head.
“The wolf and Romulus and Remus” statue (the statue stands on a column) is seen, the camera turns and shows the senate building and the Forum. Then the camera flies over to the senate building, over the Rostra were someone is giving a speech (about the election or something). Then the camera enters the senate, which is nearly empty. The camera shows the end of the senate where the senators give their speeches.
Then someone starts talking:
“Since 510BC there have been many men who gave their speech on that place: Civilians who had ambition but no money, generals with a unstoppable hunger for power, honest men, but mostly dishonest men, and many others. But we? No, we build this empire with them this is, my story, our story. We are the Nobilitas, the founders of the Empire.”
Then the screen goes black, Nobilitas appears.
This shows more what you want to see, but of course everything can be changed.
I had a bit different idea then you had, 'cause your idea is more something for a trailer (that's my opinion).
An ancient looking map is seen with only Rome indicated. Starting in Rome red ink is spreads over Italy, until the whole territory of the Roman Republic is covered, while the ink spreads, semi-visible you can see great Roman achievements of the Republic (building projects, the Roman Senate during a meeting, some battles), some music (heroic, or something) and a voice that tell us what Nobilitas is about.
“510 BC In this year we started to build an Empire, an Empire that will survive the ages, an Empire which will be remembered forever. This is story of those who build this Empire, this is my story, our story. We are the Nobilitas, the founders of the Empire.”
Then the screen goes black, Nobilitas appears.