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Costume Design for Zombie Storms troopers

Created at February 21, 2009
Created by William Dever
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I would like some feedback on the design of SS uniforms. I am torn to do the all Black dress wear of the officer staff, or just do the camouflaged field wear or a combination of both.

My instinct would to put the lead characters in black and the secondary characters in the field wear what say you?


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Kent McCalahan April 30, 2009 21:12 1 Thumb-up
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Camouflaged and black uniforms

This is a big mistake, you can not have waffen ss soldiers and allgemeine officers ,this is absurd. In your photos the guy in the black uniform is not an officer, he is scharfuhrer(sergeant), and the guy dressed in cammo uniform is a capitan(officer) The allgemeine(in black uniforms) were separated from the waffen ss(in cammo or gray uniforms).Just FYI. I think it will be correct to dress them all in black. If you need some help with the uniforms,ask me and i will do my best to answer.

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Stig-Magnus Gjerald July 04, 2009 23:44 Flag

I will be willing to help aswell, my grandfather was an Oberscharführer in ss Wiking,even have some parts of his uniform lying around.

Etheri Kakulia May 01, 2009 13:54 Flag

As far as Kent was so nice to comment my shot, I’ll do the same. :)
And just repeat what I said before. Nothing can be absurd in a fictional story if it has a good explanation. As far as it’s a zombie movie with location in Kentucky it’s hard to talk about historical accuracy, because it’s already has nothing in common with history.
But director can go with idea he finds more good for him.

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Kent McCalahan June 05, 2009 17:16 0 Thumb-ups
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Uniforms

So..are we gonna use the ahnenerbe uniforms. Thanks

Kent

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Kent McCalahan May 19, 2009 16:52 1 Thumb-up
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Gonzalez msh 3d files

HI Gonzalez, i have 3d max and i wanna open a msh file. As you can imagine, the 3d max is unable to open or import this kind of files. Do you know how can i open or convert the msh files?

Thanks,

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Felipe González May 21, 2009 16:05 Flag

I'm sorry. I've never done that. Which software did you used to create the msh file?

Kent McCalahan May 21, 2009 14:43 Flag

Thanks a lot!!! But i want to convert msh to 3ds not 3ds to msh.

William Dever May 20, 2009 02:55 Flag

There are a number of options available: MeshMaker, 3ds2msh, max2msh and blorbiter.

Radu Poenaru's MeshMaker can be found here. You have to name your 3ds file input.3ds, and place it into the same folder as MeshMaker. Then execute MeshMaker. It generates a debug.txt file. About changes you can make here, please read the Meshmakers documentation, or the tips about Shading. After that, execute MeshMaker again. It now converts the debug file into the desired msh file, named output.msh.

What to do, when the output file does not work:

* Download Anim8or, open the 3ds file from step one in Anim8or, then export as input.3ds. This should make your 3ds compatible with MeshMaker
* Delete any old debug.txt and output.msh files first, then try again.

Vinka's 3ds2msh is an alternative stand-alone program. There are also other tools available to convert from gmax, Blender or Lighwave to msh.

Mindblast's max2msh is a script to be run from within 3D Studio Max; it handles both import and export of .msh files.

blorbiter is another available option for people who would like to create Orbiter models in Blender. It offers import and export scripts for the Orbiter .msh format.

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Kent McCalahan May 19, 2009 13:35 1 Thumb-up
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Nazi zombie pilot

How about a nazi zombie pilot??? at the end of the movie he will be the last enemy.What do you think? Could you please send me the script, so i can have a look?
You can e-mail me at uberwolf_kent@yahoo.com.

Thank you,

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Kent McCalahan May 02, 2009 12:27 4 Thumb-ups
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Excelent Uniforms

I found a great idea. We can use the SS Ahnenerbe uniforms. As far as i know , the Ahnenerbe uniforms were black, the ahnenerbe was a special ss paranormal division founded by Heinrich Himmler in 1938. From my point of view this will be great because they had black uniforms and they were in this kind of stuff. So, whaddaya say? Oh....you can read more about the ahnenerbe here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahnenerbe I uploaded some photos with the Ahnenerbe

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William Dever May 13, 2009 13:57 Flag

The occult aspect of the SS is key to sub plot

Kent McCalahan May 06, 2009 13:50 Flag

Hmmm...! i don't know a web site,but i will upload a photo for ya,anyway you can search google for Luftwaffe pilot or something. See the luftwaffe uniforms.

Felipe González May 05, 2009 21:24 Flag

Cool idea. Do you know where I can find pictures of a nazi pilot uniform?

William Dever May 04, 2009 02:42 Flag

Actually Kent just made a great contribution, the Nazi's quest for anything occult ties very well with the plot of the film. Well done

Ben Tennenbaum May 02, 2009 13:48 Flag

Great research. But, and pardon my ignorance, what purpose does the Ahnenerbe serve to this film?

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Kent McCalahan May 09, 2009 14:49 3 Thumb-ups
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Gonzalez: Textures for nazi pilot uniform

Here are some textures. Might come in handy

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William Dever May 13, 2009 13:56 Flag

I will be interested to see how this turns out

Felipe González May 11, 2009 15:43 Flag

Absolutely Cool!

Thanks!

William Dever May 10, 2009 17:56 Flag

Very nice thank you

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Kent McCalahan May 06, 2009 13:57 2 Thumb-ups
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Nazi Pilot

Nazi Pilot Uniform

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Felipe González May 07, 2009 22:05 Flag

3dmax. I used to be a 3dviz user, since I mostly do architectural and product renders, but I'm learning to model characters now. Take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r3ZILRWqbY
And here's where I need the pilot to sit in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjHT52mxzBk

Kent McCalahan May 07, 2009 15:18 Flag

Np. What is you're favorite program for 3d modeling???,anyway....!!!

Felipe González May 07, 2009 15:05 Flag

Thanks a lot!

I'll use to make a low poly 3dmodel for my me264!

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Kent McCalahan May 06, 2009 13:54 0 Thumb-ups
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Nazi pilot uniforms

Here ya go, i uploaded the photo fro ya!!!

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Etheri Kakulia February 24, 2009 21:07 5 Thumb-ups
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costume design

completely agree, black is good for lead characters, officers and camouflage for the secondary characters.

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Etheri Kakulia May 01, 2009 13:45 Flag

Thank you for your comment, Kent.
But what can be more absurd than zombies?..
I didn’t read the script, so I can’t tell what kind of action is going to be in the movie, all I know is "A small Kentucky town finds itself on the receiving end of a zombie SS Troop"...
If you didn’t notice it’s NOT a historical movie! It’s a film about zombies in Kentucky.
For you information, I do know the difference between Waffen SS soldiers and Allgemeine SS officers, but as far as it’s not a film about WW2 I think that to have both of them wouldn’t be something inappropriate.
Cause first – location is Kentucky! Second - it’s a present time! Third – it’s a story about zombies! SS troopers-zombies in Kentucky??? Why you don’t find it absurd from a logical and history view?
I still have a strong opinion that officers have to have black uniform and troopers - camouflage (I know that a good screenwriter can find the good reason to put Waffen SS soldiers and Allgemeine SS officers in one place, if he found the way to put German warriors form WW2 into a small town somewhere in America).
I vote for this, cause as for me it will have a good look on the screen. It’s my opinion, that’s how I see it. Everybody has the right not to agree with me, but please stay away from words such as "absurd".Nothing can be absurd in a fictional story if it has a good explanation.
If you didn’t like my shot, it’s enough to say that you have a different point of view.

Kent McCalahan April 30, 2009 20:57 Flag

This is a big mistake, you can not have waffen ss soldiers and allgemeine officers ,this is absurd. Just FYI

Etheri Kakulia February 25, 2009 10:43 Flag

no problem, we are here to help each other :)

William Dever February 24, 2009 21:41 Flag

Great well thanks what I will go with.... thank you

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Juha Ilo March 18, 2009 09:05 2 Thumb-ups
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Historical Accuracy

Now I don't know if you want to do it "right" or the way it looks better, but I thought I'd give a Shot about historical accuracy.

The Waffen-SS (field units of the SS) used the regular, standard, M36/40/43 feldgrau uniform and camoflauge overcoats and also occasionally camo-trousers. If these SS-men are to be members of the Dirlewanger-outfit, I'd go feldgrau w/ camo bits.

The black uniform was not used on the field. Mainly it's seen worn by persons working in offices, on ceremonial duties, or by the Leibstandarte-units(life guards). Also, black uniforms were used by the tank crews, but the actual uniform is different from the regular models.

I could go on further, but to keep this Shot short, I'd suggest (if you want to go correct) you contact some local re-enactors to get precise person-to-person consultation on this uniform issue.

Personally, I do think the black uniform looks better, no doubt about that, and I don't think there would be much backfire from history buffs either ;)

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Kent McCalahan April 30, 2009 21:18 Flag

Black is good, but it wasn't used on the field. I think you have to dress the actors in correct uniforms,and not good looking uniforms. By the way, please be careful with the ranks and unit insignia.

William Dever March 19, 2009 01:51 Flag

I agree black for the officers

Felipe González March 19, 2009 00:29 Flag

Even if it isn't historically accurate, I would like to see SS officers dressed in black. After all it is a Zombie's movie and not an historic film.

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