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Created at February 05, 2009
Created by William Dever
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Etheri KakuliaBad idea.
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Kent McCalahanWagner music
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Etheri KakuliaAnother music
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This the music bed we will use as the plane makes it way though the clouds, carrying its lethal cargo

Titles go over this


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Kent McCalahan May 19, 2009 13:30 1 Thumb-up
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Königgrätzer Marsch

I think the german Königgrätzer marsch will be just perfect. The Königgrätzer Marsch (Armeemarsch II, 134 (Armeemarsch II, 195)) is a famous German military march composed by Johann Gottfried Piefke after the Battle of Königgrätz, 1866, the decisive battle of the Austro-Prussian War.It was one of Adolf Hitler's favorite marches and was often played during his public appearances. The Königgrätzer March continues to be very popular and is a staple of any modern German military parade. Like many German marches it is also used by the Russian Army and the British Army.I think this will be great because is a not a nazi march, (We do not offend people), but it was used by the german army during ww2. Dont ya think?

Here ,have a look:

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William Dever May 20, 2009 02:58 Flag

Its good but for opening titles its just too steady in the front section of the piece, you want some build up and crescendos

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Etheri Kakulia May 07, 2009 10:44 3 Thumb-ups
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Another music

Don’t get me wrong, Wagner is a wonderful composer, but Nazi+Wagner is already so threadbare cliché that in my opinion it’s already annoying. It looks like there was no music except Wagner in Germany, which is absolutely untrue.

If it’s so principal to have in the film favorite Hitler’s music, then maybe this info would be interesting for you:

Fuhrer’s favourites
Five discs that Hitler wanted to take with him
1 Piano sonatas, Opus 78 and 90, Beethoven
2 Wagner’s overture to The Flying Dutchman by the Bayreuth Orchestra, conducted by Heinz Tietjen
3 Russian arias, including the death in Boris Godunov, by Mussorgsky, sung by the Russian bass Fyodor Shalyapin
4 Tchaikovsky’s Violin Concerto, with the Berlin State Opera Orchestra, soloist Bronislaw Huberman
5 Mozart Piano Sonata No 8 in A minor with Artur Schnabel

Adolf Hitler, the most notorious champion of Richard Wagner and “racially pure” German music, banished Jewish and Russian musicians from the concert halls of the Third Reich — but apparently listened secretly to their work.
New light has been shed on the Nazi leader’s musical tastes by the discovery of what are said to be a hundred of his gramophone records found in the attic of a former Soviet intelligence officer, Lev Besymenski.
“There were classical recordings, performed by the best orchestras of Europe and Germany with the best soloists of the age,” Mr Besymenski said in a document explaining how the records came into his possession.
The 86-year-old, who helped to interrogate captured Nazi generals, died this summer. The document and the record collection have now been made available to Der Spiegel magazine.
“I was astonished that Russian musicians were among the collection,” Mr Besymenski wrote. Hitler dismissed Russians as ‘Untermenschen’, sub-humans, and was contemptuous of their contribution to world culture. Yet the records included works by Tchaikovsky, Borodin and Rachmaninov — scratched from frequent playing and all clearly labelled ‘Föhrerhauptquartier’, the Föhrer’s headquarters.”
The Soviet intelligence officer had found them in Hitler’s Chancellery in Berlin in May 1945, still packed in crates. Hitler’s staff were counting on an evacuation to the Nazi leader’s Alpine hideaway on the Obersalzberg and it was known that he could only relax with his music.
Mr Besymenski, then a captain in military intelligence, kept quiet about the records during his lifetime for fear that he would be accused of looting.
The most astonishing fact about the records — essentially Hitler’s “Best of . . .” collections — is the presence of Jewish performers. Among the recordings is a Tchaikovsky concerto performed by the virtuoso Polish Jewish violinist Bronislaw Huberman. Hitler would have been aware, while listening to Huberman’s playing, that he had founded the Palestine Orchestra in 1936 (which went on to be the foundation of today’s Israel Philharmonic Orchestra) and that he was living in enforced exile. The Austrian Jewish pianist Artur Schnabel, whose mother was killed by the Nazis, also had his work included in Hitler’s personal collection. It is not known which records in the collection were listened to most frequently, nor have they been formally catalogued.
“I’m not terribly surprised by Hitler’s record choices,” said James Kennaway, of Stanford University. “Nazi music policy was pretty incoherent. Stravinsky was played in the Third Reich because he was known to have right-wing views, Bartok because Hungary was a German ally.” Dr Kennaway, a leading musicologist who specialises in the Nazi period, added: “The only real point of consistency in Nazi policy was antiSemitism, so the Schnabel and Huberman recordings do stand out.”
Hitler had spelt out his view of Jewish culture in Mein Kampf. “There was never a Jewish art and there is none today,” he wrote, adding that the “two queens of the arts, architecture and music, gained nothing original from the Jews”.
Roger Moorhouse, a historian and the author of Killing Hitler, said that the record collection, if authentic, suggested a contradiction between the Föhrer’s aesthetic and political values. He said: “It is interesting that being Russian or Jewish did not disqualify a musician from a place in Hitler’s record collection. There was probably a separation in his world view between the political and the artistic.”
Although Hitler took piano lessons as a child, he displayed no personal musical talent. His surgeon, Hanskarl von Hasselbach, noted that “Hitler always whistled out of tune”.
His former radio operator, Rochus Misch, the last survivor of Hitler’s bunker, recently recalled how he had summoned his manservant to put on a record after a row with army commanders. “He just sat there, completely sunk in the music. The Föhrer needed distraction.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2211203.ece

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Etheri Kakulia May 13, 2009 18:52 Flag

No problem, hope it helped.

William Dever May 13, 2009 13:56 Flag

Very good thank you

Etheri Kakulia May 12, 2009 08:57 Flag

Well, it was just example that there were not only Wagner... Maybe aria "Death of Boris Godunov" would be a little weird with walking nazi zombies. :) But it has really sad and dramatic sound.
If I had to choose from that list a music for the title, maybe I would prefer Beethoven's Opus 90.

William Dever May 10, 2009 17:58 Flag

Very interesting comments this
Russian arias, including the death in Boris Godunov, by Mussorgsky, sung by the Russian bass Fyodor Shalyapin

could be particularly stirring

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Kent McCalahan May 04, 2009 11:08 3 Thumb-ups
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Wagner music

Hmm...kinda...,the ss march may be illegal in several countries,you are right. Anyway i was thinking about Wagner . Wagner muic was pretty popular in nazi Germany and Hitler's favorite music composer . The Wagner songs are pretty cool for movies and as far as i know ,Wagner songs were used in old movies and old cartoons as well. In my opinion Wagner is just perfect for this production. So, whaddaya say?

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Etheri Kakulia May 07, 2009 09:59 Flag

So what, Kent?.. If you didn’t notice it’s not a competition but cooperation here. People share their thoughts and everybody discuss them, only this way the best ideas could be born. But unfortunately it’s not easy to cooperate with someone who can’t listen to nobody but himself.

Kent McCalahan May 06, 2009 13:51 Flag

Hmm, ya don't say...!!!

Etheri Kakulia May 04, 2009 11:44 Flag

Hmm, truly I was thinking about Wagner's music. But wouldn't it be too... cliché?

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Kent McCalahan May 01, 2009 09:21 0 Thumb-ups
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SS March

I go for a SS march.

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William Dever May 01, 2009 18:23 Flag

unfortunately in Germany the use of this song is illegal

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Etheri Kakulia April 28, 2009 13:40 4 Thumb-ups
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Bad idea.

Sorry, I don’t think that march is a good idea. First of all, marches, as for me, are not good for titles at all. For second SS marches can be offensive for a lot of people also they can cause a lot of problems with marketing and so on. One thing is SS troopers zombies, other thing is SS music...

If you want to use music from that time period I think it’s better to choose a usual song, as for example known to everybody Lily Marlen.

Or better to use an original music from some composer, if it’s possible.

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Pasi Pitkänen March 30, 2009 10:20 1 Thumb-up
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This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.

Hi,

I wanted to give this a shot but the video isn't available. I would have composed some music into it.

Is it possible to have the clip online again somewhere where I can download it? I want to import it to my composing program so that I can give it a shot.

-Pasi

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Pasi Pitkänen March 30, 2009 12:49 Flag

Thanks for listening.

I can do a modern march type of song but it would be instrumental + orchestral. Guess that's not what you are looking for?

William Dever March 30, 2009 12:13 Flag

Fantastic music , you have real talent

William Dever March 30, 2009 12:11 Flag

Actually this was a musical bed, which was going to be overlaid over a plane going through the clouds

something like this is what we are looking for

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI4zjFkrsyw

William Dever March 30, 2009 12:05 Flag

I am sure Felipe will do so

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Mikhail Kouznetsov February 08, 2009 13:37 2 Thumb-ups
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I think, that SA march is not a good idea

"Die Braune Kompanie" is a stormtrooper march. As we know, SS and SA dindn't like each other. So why must we use the SA song when the film is about the SS-men ? There are lots of other Waffen-SS and Luftwaffe marches. In my opinion, they would suit much more here, than "The Braun Company".

By the way, I've found a nice song that can be useful, I guess...

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William Dever February 08, 2009 16:32 Flag

Actually I kind of like that very much... I did not realize that Die Braune Kompanie was an exclusively SA march

Thanks for your input

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