CANNES 2008: Crazy Ideas Needed This task is closed

Created atFebruary 28, 2008
Created byTimo Vuorensola
ClosedMay 24, 2008
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Iron Sky team is going to land to Cannes again this year, but now we have a serious plan to start funding the film, making contacts and meeting people – and preferably, to get everybody in Cannes to know about Iron Sky.

Now your crazy collaborative mind is needed to come up with some seriously crazy ideas. We are not Weinstein Company, so we don’t have enough money to pull off any unbelieveable tricks in Cannes, so your creative ideas is required!


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Riku Uotinen March 06, 2008 12:17 Flag this shot

Newspaper boys

Get some kids to dress up to scouting uniforms or something that looks like the uniform of hitler jugend. They could act as newspaper boys (you know, EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL 'BOUT IT!) and giving these old newspapers. Headlines are screaming that nazis are coming from space or something like that. You could mix current news with that (why do you think US is building missile shield in the Europe at the moment?).

I know that these kind of newspaper boys were mainly used before the first world war.. I don't know if they were used anymore in the 30's...

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Jordan Bollander May 08, 2008 21:53 FLAG

Fantastic idea, and I like the idea of promoting War Bonds in the fictional paper.

I don't think a uniform is entirely necessary, just an outfit from the time period would be enough to grab people's attention.

Mikko Tikkanen May 08, 2008 21:09 FLAG

By far, one of the best ideas, though you need to be really careful with this so that A) anyone won't get arrested B) you or the movie won't be flagged as pro-Nazi. However, if you manage to steer around those rocks this should create nice buzz for the movie.

You need to make really clear to the viewer that, from the first words, it's obvious that it's not pro-Nazi, since single minded persons will only glance the thing and judge it as such. The problem with this is that it only takes couple of these persons, in right places, to get the word going and after that I fear you'll be having hard time to get anyone interested.

Jussi Vänskä April 24, 2008 18:50 FLAG

This can be coupled with the war bond idea, as the leaflet should contain some ads, so why not one promoting the war bonds?

Matti-Pekka Ritvola April 24, 2008 11:53 FLAG

This one has my vote! definately you have to print a small brochure about the film disguised as an 1940´s newspaper. Abit similar marketing that was used with Metal Gear Solid 4.

Kimmo Vääriskoski April 16, 2008 18:32 FLAG

A fine idea indeed! Just be careful, the costumes must NOT be Scouting uniforms or the strong Scouting Associations will definitely sue. Hitler Jugend is understandably something they do not wish to be identified with... (They were forced to stop functioning and start being Hitler Youth back then, though, so it could be only natural now, but I doubt their sense of humour would stretch far enough.)

So, do it a bit harder way and get the uniforms from elsewhere. Scouting uniforms in different countries differ a lot and without the Scouting badges some of them could easily be used, without the bad connotations in Cannes. Maybe they should have a slight "futurized" look in them, together with the easily identifiable design? That would be a nice touch, yes?

Stephen Lee April 08, 2008 12:14 FLAG

I really love it! I think it is one of the best ones I have heard so far

Timo-Heikki Mäkelä April 07, 2008 18:22 FLAG

Making it a four page tabloid with a large enough a print (say, 20 000?) and further making it available on the net you could easily pass everyone all the information on Iron Sky you like. Plus those funny looking space nazis wandering everywhere in the crowd passing the news to everyone interested should certainly catch everyones attention. Just make sure you hire a legion of them in advance.

Timo-Heikki Mäkelä April 07, 2008 17:20 FLAG

Hey, do use this idea together with the one I just suggested at the main Star Wreck site! I suggested making a modernized version of the old "Der Stürmer" newspaper of the nazis, with the title and texts changed appropriately to reflect the space time, but with an obvious resemblance to the original. You just need to be careful you make it clear you aren't pro-nazi ideology. If you do it correct, that may quite possibly make HUGE publicity even!

http://forum.starwreck.com/viewtopic.php?p=45902#45902

Jarmo Puskala March 11, 2008 09:40 FLAG

Haha, this is a great idea. I'd take it would be something different as well - the whole paperboy idea.

Matti Piiroinen March 07, 2008 17:31 FLAG

This is a marvellous idea! I think newspaper boys passing news leaflets about nazis to people would be a funny and effective promotion idea.

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Henry April 23, 2008 21:43 Flag this shot

CHARACTERS

Hi i`am from Poland (sorry for my language):) HI TO EVERYONE

I`am wondering about characters, and i have idea - maybe EVIL NAZI FEMALE COMMANDER or something like that:)
this is link to good picture
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3333/free009764rv7.jpg

What do you think?:)

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Charles Anderson May 13, 2008 01:23 FLAG

Really, Iron Sky a comedy? The concept would lend itself to being serious.

Robert Seppälä May 06, 2008 11:08 FLAG

I might agree Matti, but Iron Sky is a comedy right? Why not have a menacing evil hot babe to match wits against? Or maybe part of her final solution is a wrestling match (you vs. her) ... or just something absurd like that.

:)

Matti-Pekka Ritvola April 24, 2008 11:55 FLAG

Yeah girls in uniforms are always hot, but they might also give the movie (if possible) a quite cheesy first appearance. Also i dont think Iron Sky wants to go with comparisons to the Grindhouse movie :D

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Brendan O'Neill May 20, 2008 09:08 Flag this shot

Spotlight Projection

What about using a spotlight at night to project the website address and a swastika on to clouds or something high up like a building - if you could move it about a bit then it should plenty of attention. You could also point it at the moon etc.

If you could manage to get yourself arrested too then newspapers and TV could run with it!!! No such thing as bad publicity.

Having a couple of actors in 3rd Reich liveried space suits handing out flyers could be good too.

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Toni Nummela May 20, 2008 10:55 FLAG

Brendan wrote:
"If you could manage to get yourself arrested too then newspapers and TV could run with it!!! No such thing as bad publicity"

I think the crew has expressed that they don't want that kind of publicity and I agree it is very risky.

But your suggestion made me think that the only guy who could actually pull this of as a "humor"-stunt is actually Samuli Torssonen. I can imagine him giving an interview in his "funny character" as seen in the dailies. There he would be sitting in talk shows answering to all these serious questions:

"I was just trying to warn you about the nazis in the moon" and "well, the projector in Cannes was the obvious choice. How else could you tell a message for millions of people. Using the internet? Yeah right."

But back to the real world. A lot people today still have strong emotional memories when it comes to nazis. I personally don't but I surely can understand and feel for those who have.

When people have strong emotions of something, the message gets misunderstood easily. The wrong message also spreads fast and the spreading is more difficult to stop and get the right message through because the "right" message usually is not so provoking.

So unless you have a provoking "right" message to fight back the "wrong" message, don't do that. When I think of it, I must admit nazis in the moon is infact quite good "right" message :-)

Micah May 15, 2008 23:57 Flag this shot

Safety-themed Pamphlets

Create an educational-type PSA 1940s pamphlet.
"ARE YOU PREPARED FOR AN INVASION?" or "UFOS: HOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF" etc.
Make it campy, toss in a few graphics, maybe add an item check list like:

IN THE EVENT OF AN ATTACK, KEEP THE FOLLOWING ON HAND AT ALL TIMES:
1 x gask mask
4 x canned peaches
1 x German Dictionary
2 x pack of cigarettes
etc.

I know there are already stickers available, but I think there's potential in posting flyers around the city. Like a WANTED poster, with a grainy photo of a spaceship in the sky (or picture of a nazi character from the film); contact info would be the website/fake phone number/email. haha

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Jedediah Walls May 16, 2008 04:04 FLAG

You know, I'm going to jump on this idea but spin it in a unique way...

For about 2,000 dollars, you can get about $20,000 tri-fold brochures.

Create a simple flyer on surviving a terrorist invasion - make it like the old fifties duck and cover videos, but style it up for 2018. What kind of "how to avoid a terrorist attack" brochure would your government make?

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John Buckman May 06, 2008 08:41 Production Leader Flag this shot

Insane Conspiracy Videos on Youtube

My idea is to hire an actor who poses as a Nazi conspiracy-nut, and who makes Youtube videos where he is slowly uncovering evidence that the Nazis had flying saucers and other advanced technology. He should use some of the real books the Iron Sky team have, showing drawings of experimental Nazi flying machines, and show these as scanned pictures.

There already is a good sized wikipedia entry about Nazi UFOs, so this is very plausible:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_UFOs

He could also attempt to show similarities between the drawings and UFO sightings on the Internet, for example showing this photo from flickr (attached below)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/miromile/455806682/
and then a scan of a drawing a of nazi flying saucer. Or focus on famous historical pictures of UFOs.

I really like this super-creepy photo of this guy who has wrapped his head in aluminum foil:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/robnwatkins/397488557/
(attached below)

I see that the Iron Sky team have created fake comic nazi books and other props. These could be used by this person, as he discovers these things on the Internet. Perhaps the comic could be listed for auction on ebay, and then immediately cancel the auction and the account. ie, plant fake evidence.

I think this could be a lot of fun, making fun of conspiracy theorists, and crazy people on the net. Initially, people wouldn't know if this guy is "for real" or not. Then, they'll wonder why this film on a similar topic is being made. Sort of a lonelygirl15 kind of "is is real or not?" thing.

If we really wanted to get crazy, some volunteers could be assigned to get on conspiracy theory (and far-right-wing?) discussion boards, and start discussing the evidence, make it sound plausible.

Here is an example of a crazy site that seems to believe this stuff:
http://www.burlingtonnews.net/hitlersufo.html

and one with lots of drawings:
http://greyfalcon.us/German%20UFOs.htm

-john

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Timo Rüppell May 16, 2008 14:36 FLAG

I think you may already know this, but the movie "Der Untergang" has extremely authentic voice acting on Hitlers part due to a unique recording of his and Mannerheims conversation in 1942. Since the tapes are available for scientific study, it may be possible to hunt a copy down for some voice manipulation and insertion into the movie.

Timo Rüppell May 15, 2008 06:11 FLAG

I am fluent in spoken and written German.

Toni Nummela May 14, 2008 19:23 FLAG

We've just got some great evidence:
http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

OMG!

John Buckman May 11, 2008 17:05 FLAG

I skyped today with Timo Vuorensola, the director of Iron Sky, and he thinks this is a great idea and wants to move it forward. I think the way we're going to go forward with it is to make it a separate production inside WaM.

However, since Timo and the rest of the crew (and me) are going to Cannes on wednesday, nothing will happen for a week, as we all have to focus on our suntans and flirting with skinny actresses. (grin)

One idea that came out in my conversation with Timo V was making a 3 second audio file which is a condensed version of a few sentences from a Hitler speech (maybe 90% of the data removed). It could be "found" by tinman and posted somewhere (like a yahoo group), where fans could try to decode it, someone would succeed, and upload the decoded file, which would then be spooky. Best would be if the Hitler words were somehow relating to space flight (and lebensraum perhaps), but that would require someone fluent in German.

Timo *loves* the idea that the reason Bush wants the USA to fly to the moon is that "he knows about the Nazis on the moon"

I might be able to make some fake recordings of Bill Clinton and also George Bush Senior, saying something about nazis in space, because I wrote a program for manipulating spoken words 15 yrs ago: http://john.redmood.com/atomizer.html

John Buckman May 09, 2008 16:24 FLAG

Toni wrote:" but we need to know one thing first. ... Do the earthlings (even the highest security guys at FBI/NASA/Government) in Iron Sky script know that Nazis went to moon in 1945 or not?
Is there a conspiracy to hide the fact or is the idea of Nazis on the Moon just so crazy that no body here on earth believes that?"

I've got the script, reading through it now, and at least so far, there's nothing about people in 1945 knowing about the nazis on the moon.

Scripts can change, of course, but I don't think Earth-people know the Nazis are on the moon -- it's the *dark* *side*, remember? I assume the implication of that is they've been hidden this whole time.

Next step, I think, is to get an ok from the Timo & Samuli on this, and I'm going to bring it up with them next week in Cannes.

If this like it, I think it should be its own film production inside wreck-a-movie, since it really is a separate film.

I love Timo Rüppell's suggestions for leaked materials, well done!

John Bult May 08, 2008 02:41 FLAG

This is great! there should definately be some home videos of ufos with nazi symbols on it. "SS"

Timo-Heikki Mäkelä May 07, 2008 22:57 FLAG

Andrew Dougherty, you gave me an even wilder idea, I think.

What if there "might" be such sounds in the background in some spots end of movie completely in random? I mean, sometimes watching the movie there would be nothing, but sometimes there could occur something "UFO" in completely unexpectable surroundings so, that nobody could ever repeat the same. With the modern digital movie technology such should be perfectly possible.

I'll open a new shot about this somewhere in more correct place.

Elias Ruokanen May 07, 2008 22:27 FLAG

What a splendid idea.

The great ofcourse is that other youtubers will start responding to the video. We could have a few plants who try to stir up conflict, other people who get interested and research etc.

Andrew Dougherty May 07, 2008 15:09 FLAG

Well, I'm a paranoid schizophrenic who's worked for organizations that not even their own members can prove exist, but this is all very fun. What about this: near the end of the film, certain sounds are added that clearly don't syncronize with the film, a kind of you know that thing in the 30's where people thought orsen well's was telling the truth kind of thing. Some people with their fancy surround sound set ups could be made to think that something was actually going on. You would have to design the sounds so that there was no way to visually verify their veracity. Lastly, it would have to be brief enough that they couldn't adjust their sound. Also, they may try rewinding to make sure it was a fake, I don't know what counter measures could be added there. Silly idea but just a thought.

Toni Nummela May 07, 2008 13:03 FLAG

BTW: All the people abducted by UFOs were actually taken to the moonbase to work for the nazis. There's no such thing as extra-terrestials. They were all nazis from the beginning.

Toni Nummela May 07, 2008 10:27 FLAG

Great evidence! I'll come up with some more in the future, but we need to know one thing first. The marketing has to be inline with the movie...

Do the earthlings (even the highest security guys at FBI/NASA/Government) in Iron Sky script know that Nazis went to moon in 1945 or not?

Is there a conspiracy to hide the fact or is the idea of Nazis on the Moon just so crazy that no body here on earth believes that?

Timo Rüppell May 07, 2008 09:05 FLAG

I was thinking about what kind of evidence you could have for Nazis actually being on the moon right now:

1) A leaked photo from NASA taken by the Hubble Space Telescope showing what appears to be an observatory right on the edge of the dark side of the moon (the nazis must have some way to observe earth after all). I know that Hubble can only resolve features about 280 feet across but few normal people do so this could be quite plausible and look extremely cool. The photo could be slightly ambiguous but clearly show some sort of large non-natural formation with a swastika showing on it.

2) Leaked top secret NASA / DOD documents hinting at a possible alternative motive behind the Bush administrations current plan to go to the moon.

3) News story about a group of Neo-Nazi rocketry hobbyists getting arrested for trying to launch a far too large "toy" rocket. Subsequent investigations reveal their objective to have been delivering a payload of maps (military and civilian) as well as tech gadgets (GPS recievers, pre paid cell phones etc) into orbit around the moon.

Vuokko Aitosalo May 07, 2008 06:11 FLAG

Wow. Would NOT want to run into that tin foil dude in a dark alley.
Great idea guys, everybody loves a good conspiracy theory. When do you think the timing would be right for this sort of thing?

Toni Nummela May 07, 2008 06:05 FLAG

Ricky Grove wrote:
"I'll volunteer to be the actor, if I'm not too old looking to do it. Although if we use the aluminum foil idea, it probably won't make a difference."

I think you look *just the perfect man* to start the job! These paranoid guys I've found are usually young guys but I think your age gives this thing the sort of realism I think is very different and hopefully makes this more belivable and makes it stand out.

It's more about the voice and mimics when your head is covered.

Should there be also somekind of drama plan to all of this (like in Improv anywhere)? Nobody cares to watch the clips if their content doesn't somehow escalate when moving towards the premiere of Iron Sky.

The last question to be answered could be "when are the nazis attacking" and the anse "Well, my sources indicate that the nazis are attacking this friday at 4 p.m. first at Russian movie theaters" but that can lead to another theme of "what will you be doing when they attack" etc.

It could also be that because we have so many people and ideas here it will spontaniously live its life and no plan is necessary.

Jani Salomaa May 06, 2008 22:10 FLAG

You guys are on fire! Get it going, right now!

Getting a bunch of people from all over the world to do this sort of a thing would be the first step into a really daring involvement by the community. And it could be a key to a media frenzy. So far, WreckAMovie has lacked a spark. This could be it.

I bet you'll get the attention of the production team once they wake up from their teaser deadline sleep deprivation disorder (a rare disease rarely encountered out of its original Star Wreck environment)..

I propose we (Iron Sky team and the fans) get this planned and organized properly. It is a daring push, one that must be timed and executed right, with extremely virally high rewards if it succeeds.

John Buckman May 06, 2008 21:31 FLAG

To Ricky Grove:

I've been looking at the web sites you link to from wreck a movie, and I think you'd be great as "tinman93" (or whatever) at youtube. You've got real acting experience, which I think we need to pull this off.

For scripts, I can make a task here on wreck-a-movie, and see what we can come up with as group.

Also, can you do a screen test, just for internal wam use, of a tin-foil wrapped head in a turtleneck, print out some of the stuff from http://greyfalcon.us/German%20UFOs.htm and use it as props.

Probably use a solid color backdrop (preferably white) with some side-lighting, to make the tinfoil reflect (use the flickr photo as a lighting guide)

The screen test would be useful to see if this would work at all. We might not be able to carry it off.

I'm thinking that this person should *not* come off as a nazi-sympathizer but more someone who is paranoid, and suspicious, and actually worries about a nazi invasion, and is using the tin foil as a mask (one episode should probably explain the mask), so that the nazis don't break down his door and take him away. He doesn't get the irony or creepiness of his disguise.

The videos should be under 5 minutes long, preferably 2 to 4 minutes.

Ricky Grove May 06, 2008 19:56 FLAG

Outstanding idea. I'll volunteer to be the actor, if I'm not too old looking to do it. Although if we use the aluminum foil idea, it probably won't make a difference. I have decent DV camera (also a pixel camera which might make the video look particularly strange) and experience in editing. I can improvise given direction or work off of prepared scripts.

Shane McElveen May 06, 2008 19:44 FLAG

I love the idea of mixing movie marketing propaganda into existing conspiracy theorist sites, and I love even more the idea of the actor pretending to be a conspiracy theorist running around the film festival handing things out. It might even be nice to have a very public scene where several men in sunglasses, black leather trench coats and jack boots march out of a black car, pretend to inject the man with something that puts him right out, and take him into the car. Then they calmly drive away. In the back windshield of the car have the "Iron Sky" logo, with the website address stretching across the back of the car perhaps.

Toni Nummela May 06, 2008 15:37 FLAG

And I think some guys could cover their heads in aluminum foil and wear turtlenecks in Cannes also. That would be cheap, wouldn't it?

Toni Nummela May 06, 2008 15:23 FLAG

Man, I just love this board! It's very rewarding to bring up ideas and then someone continues as you did just now John. That was exactly what I wanted to see.

John wrote:
"what if a number of us all made our own youtube videos, but ALL of us making videos always covered our heads in aluminum foil, and always wore a black turtleneck."

That would be awesome. I hate the word-monster LOL but now I actually did.

John Buckman May 06, 2008 13:52 FLAG

oohhh.. just had another idea... what if a number of us all made our own youtube videos, but ALL of us making videos always covered our heads in aluminum foil, and always wore a black turtleneck.

That would increase the number of videos, make it seem even more like a creepy cult.

John Buckman May 06, 2008 13:50 FLAG

My thought was that this isn't so much a Cannes-specific idea, but a viral marketing idea in general for Iron Sky.

I wouldn't want to create more work for the Iron Sky team, but use the stuff they've already made, mix it with the lunatic fringe stuff that's already available (best example is http://greyfalcon.us/German%20UFOs.htm)

Also, a key element of this idea is that it could be done totally by fans, creating no new work for the Iron Sky core team.

I'm meeting with the Iron Sky team next week at Cannes, and if they give this a go-ahead, then I'd absolutely use WaM to create a task and make this happen!

Robert Seppälä May 06, 2008 11:02 FLAG

Excellent idea dude!

Toni Nummela May 06, 2008 11:00 FLAG

How about creating the evidence as a Task using WAM-people to produce / print some kind of videos and pictures around the world? The paranoid guy would then go like: "I just recieved very good video evidence from Finland that proves my theory that Nazis are infact alive and well in the moon. Take a look at this video/picture."

This "evidence" could also be produced by Energia them selves but we WAM guys could add the realism by using different cameras and different locations. Project would include:

1. Energia produces some printable "evidence" that Nazis are in the moon
2. WAM people print out this "evidence" at home/work
3. WAM people record a video / take pictures of this evidence at their current location (at known landmarks or local elements etc)
4. WAM people upload the videos / pictures to WAM or Youtube
5. The paranoid actor makes Videoblogs talking about this evidence

The quality of the videos could be very crappy like it sometimes is when filming videos with digital photocams. It doesn't matter. Could it work? How much time do we have? How does this tie-in to Cannes? Why so many questions? When is Iron Sky demo out?

Petri Liuhto May 06, 2008 10:32 FLAG

Brilliant idea. Really original.

Viral Videos

viral publicity with a real-look videos, like unclasiffied and forbbiden videos stole from someone.
With people saying they have to know the truth or something like that

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Matthew Lelonek May 15, 2008 12:35 Flag this shot

Two Words

I have two words for you guys, "Crop Circles" restart the phenomenon but this time make it truly global. Though I cannot stress enough that giant swastikas would be a bad idea.

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Jedediah Walls May 16, 2008 04:04 FLAG

Giant Crop Swastikas would be the most awesome visual ever. That's your teaser poster right there...

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Tuomas Kaikkonen May 14, 2008 00:13 Flag this shot

The Resistance?

How about tapping into the memories of the French Resistance to the Nazi occupation... dress up as the caricature of the underground resistance and start speaking some weird code words and hand out strange fliers...

Reference to the British series of the underground resistance movement... forgot what was its name. Remember the restaurant/inn owner, who hid the British paratroopers, the german officers.... someone help me with this?

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Robert Seppälä May 14, 2008 00:19 FLAG

In the movies, it's always some sexy French woman that's hiding the resistance fighters....hope that helps. :)

Tuomas Kaikkonen May 14, 2008 00:18 FLAG

Of course. Now I found it. It was called "Allo! Allo!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Allo_%27Allo!

Tuomas Kaikkonen May 14, 2008 00:16 FLAG

Wikipedia has some nice pictures and background info on French Resistance Movement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistance_during_World_War_II

David Goecke May 13, 2008 17:37 Flag this shot

Doomsayers

Taking off of a couple of ideas already mentioned...

what if you have a couple of plainclothes people handing out conspracy theory flyers about the nazis hiding on the moon and their imminant return. maybe they're a bit messy and have "The end is nigh!" type of sandwich signs. maybe 5 or 6 of these folks milling around. but you also have a pair of neatly dressed gentlemen with military hair cuts. Maybe their suits seem a little out of place, older. These two gentlemen drag off these conspiracy nuts through out the night screaming angrilly in German. Of course while plenty of people are watching and the conspiricy nuts scatter more flyers as they are dragged away.

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Micah May 15, 2008 06:13 FLAG

Strangely enough, I came up with the same idea at work today before having gone through all the comments here. I think, "THE END IS NIGH" works on the front of the sandwich board and "IRON SKY" for the back. (You beat me by a day!) But instead of plains-clothed people, I'd say get a whole bunch of folks and dress them up in homeless/vagrant outfits that would appear typical of anyone from the 1940's. (Is that possible to do without losing the theme, though?)

It'd also be great if the doomsayers could pass out various, poorly photocopied propaganda movie flyers, too. The flyers would be cryptic, but contain enough information about the film to raise awareness.