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NASA Moon Mission 2018

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Created atFebruary 28, 2008
Created byTimo Vuorensola
ClosedNovember 25, 2009
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Closing Note

Good stuff. This has helped us a lot to come up with the right kind of Moon mission. Danke!

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In Iron Sky, one element of the film is the long-awaited USA return to the Moon in 2018. Let’s start working on the spaceship that’s about to send the Moon Lander once orbiting the Moon. First, we’re gonna need a name.

I’ve personally always approached this from the U.S.S. Nostromo point of view – a big, ugly, clunky, dark and pretty believeable spaceship. Later on, we’re going to go forward and start designing the ship, but hold your horses until then, as a warmup, let’s come up with a believeable name.


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Michael Substelny November 06, 2009 15:36 1 Thumb-up
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"Houston, the Halliburton has landed."

Surely someone has suggested this before, but if the lander is American, then give it a corporate sponsor.

Some corporate sponsors would be funny:

"Houston, the Co-Co Puffs has landed."

Other funny corporate sponsors include Jack Daniels Whiskey, Kleenix tissues, Microsoft, Warner Brothers ("What's up, Doc?"), and Levi's jeans.

A company that required the astronauts to repeat their slogan would be funny as well. Suppose Alltel telecommunications sponsored the mission:

"Houston, the Alltel has landed. Come and get your love."

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Angela R. November 11, 2009 15:14 Flag

Oh, YES! Sponsor-tickets would be excellent. Thumb up!

Carl Voluntaryist November 10, 2009 14:17 Flag

I say it would be enough to plaster the exterior with sponsor-stickers.
Enough to make it look ridiculous.
"Barbies fun Spacewalk", etc.

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Erik Niemi November 10, 2009 21:34 1 Thumb-up
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Herpderp

You ought to call it U.S.S. Kirkland or something similar. It could then be blown up after a witty order of "Beam it up, Hans"

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MajorD November 08, 2009 00:08 2 Thumb-ups
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Balance The Realities

For the moon mission to make sense in the context of the movie, it has to be balanced with reality. We can't just have the normal moon mission as currently predicted, or we can't have super advanced military spaceships. They have to effect each other in certain ways, no matter how secret the military side may be.

Previously, I've advocated Orion style nuclear pulse engines and nuclear thermal rockets as the propulsion methods for the military ships, as those are technologies that would be available in the seventies and eighties if public pressure didn't prevail over nuclear testing. Recently, the VASIMR plasma engine was tested and it could prove to be an extremely efficient space engine technology, but for optimum efficiency it needs a nuclear generator.
http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-amp-space/article/2009-10/plasma-rockets-could-make-pit-stops-mars-and-beyond

The story can go like the below. The military finds out about the VASIMR plasma engine and secretly pressures NASA through Congress to combine it with a secret military nuclear engine already made for spaceships. The US smooths things over with foreign governments, and it works because every country secretly wants the scouting mission to happen. Some countries give token objection in public but even they help make nuclear engines in space palletable to the public.

The military gets the moon mission crew to mostly be secret military spaceship crewmen, but NASA gets a few scientists into the crew anyway.

The moon mission now has a true spaceship and is in reality a military mission that the public and scientist crewmembers think is civilian and purely scientific. The actual primary mission is to scout the moon for Nazis.

The ship is also secretly armed. The military got a black box experiment onto the ship called the Lunar Atmospheric and Surface Energy Research analyser, which is actually a laser. See the acronym of the name?

The military segment of the crew has secret orders that mostly mesh pretty well with the over all mission. But, things go wrong and the non-military segment of the crew is taken by complete surprise when the ship is attacked by Nazis, and the LASER turns out to be a weapon, not a spectroscope. The scientist's astrnaought training is still good and they do their best to keep up with the military personnel, but are struggling with shock over the alienness of the situation.

The idea behind the ship for the military is, it's a top of the line scout, and the first spaceship ever launched against the Nazis, not counting Apollo program attempts to find signs of the Nazis, which failed. The military's space warships are all nuclear powered and would be extremely obvious if launched, amateur astronomers could see the ships. Since they're nuclear powered, they can't launch them without extremely good reason. So, the ships are kept on the ground ready for launch in case of emergency. The NASA ship is the military's first chance to have a spaceship in space in a way that no one would question.

As for what the ship looks like, it should be purely realistic. Engine in back, sides lined with radiators, and a crew section at the bow. The laser should have two telescope like mounts 180 degrees opposite each other for 360 degree coverage. The ship is fast and very fuel efficient for long ranges. The ships in the below page are perfect.
http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/rocket3c2.html

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Jack Malinowski November 09, 2009 02:17 Flag

Yes Major! : realism is next to godliness when dealing with Nazis or altered histories or future utopias containing lots of imminently dead Nazis
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Viljo Vesterinen August 13, 2009 07:06 3 Thumb-ups
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Awesome.

I think it would be great if the moon landers name could have some sort of a double meaning.

Example: the moonlander's name is "Awesome", so the American astronaut's could sometimes shout something like: "Dude, thats Awesome!" or "Prepare for the Awesome".

I dunno if those kind of names are believable though :/

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Michael Substelny November 06, 2009 15:22 Flag

I think spaceship Awesome would be pretty funny in a comedy movie.

Seppo Hiltunen August 13, 2009 07:10 Flag

that were like in Mel Brooks film, where someone shouted "oly miracle can help us" and in the following scene the horse named "Miracle" appears to rescue the guys...could really make some funny moments, but don't use that trick too much, so it keeps it's effect fresh. ;)

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BJ Mitchell May 08, 2008 01:13 3 Thumb-ups
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There is already a NASA Program Name for the Mission...

There is already a NASA program name for the spacecraft that will return to the moon - Orion/Altair. (See http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/exploration/mmb/orion_announcement.html, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_%28spacecraft%29, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_%28spacecraft%29for more info.) There are plenty of mockups and graphics representing the vehicles.

I'm betting that the first mission to the moon will be named either Eagle (first lunar lander - note that Altair is the brightest star in the constellation Aquila The Eagle), Challenger or Columbia (tribute to the lost missions).

A potential variation might be to have the return landing conducted by a private company (like Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic). Or maybe a race between public (Virgin Galactic) and government (NASA). One arrives within minutes of the other - both are taken captive by the Nazis.

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Pekka Ikonen September 05, 2009 12:00 Flag

Said NASA project has met some difficulties. Heard a news in radio that funding of the moon mission is not sufficient, so they have to postpone the landing to the moon until at least 2021. And even then they require 50 000 000 000 $ !!! (fifty BILLION) more. Depending on the funding the landing might actually been postponed until 2025 or even 2029!

Timo Vuorensola May 30, 2008 18:19 Flag

Very good. I think this pretty well nails it down, the moon mission and the actual name of the ship, plus what it will be like.

Juho Savela May 22, 2008 21:15 Flag

First Odyssey's (Apollo 13 command module) journey was a successful failure at best. If second one's lunar lander somehow find's "moon nazis", that journey will be one of mankind's epic failures.

Timo-Heikki Mäkelä May 22, 2008 20:55 Flag

Referring too much to an existing program would be problematic, because then the film would be too closely compared with reality. Using another name let's more freedom for imagination.

It's also well expectable, that NASA will still rename or cancel their project and launch another one with a different name.

Not that those names wouldn't be fine names. Especially Odysseus does sound cool.

Juho Savela May 22, 2008 20:24 Flag

I would also like historical name. Even more so if flight is made with conventional Apollo like Constellation system.

Constellation program uses Ares rocket(s) to bring Command Module (CM), Service Module (SM), Lunar Module (LM) and Earth Departure Stage module (EDS). CM and SM systems are named Orion and LM system is named Altair.

Apollo used command module designations CM-101 to CM-119 or something like that. Each individual module had own "callsign". Apollo 11 had CM-107 "Columbia".

So good names could be CM-20x Columbia (apollo 11) or CM-20x Odyssey (apollo 13)

BJ Mitchell May 11, 2008 03:33 Flag

Orion is the actual official successor to the Space Shuttle. Altair is the new extended exploration vessel. That's a done deal. :-)

The US has a history of reusing historic names for both manned spacecraft and naval ships. For example, Columbia was used as the name of the Apollo 11 mission command module (Eagle was the lunar lander). The name was reused for the first Space Shuttle. One can imagine that the first Orion/Altair flight to the Moon might be named Columbia/Eagle. Likewise, the shuttles Challenger and Endeavor were named for famous British exploration ships.

I'm betting that the first return to the moon will use a historic name from a previous mission.

Osiris Brackhaus May 08, 2008 08:31 Flag

Orion... I'd love to see that name on a spaceship again any time. Space Patrol Orion is one of the coolest things out there. But maybe it would be a little too much to ask of the US to give a spaceship a name with a geeky/cool history..?

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Alexander Priddy August 17, 2009 23:46 3 Thumb-ups
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spaceship/ moon lander names

due to the fact that in the real world by the year 2018 we will have the reality of the "american union" of america, mexico and canada as one large linked continent with one ruler, i believe it should be named based on something with shows a joint effort on their parts.

Spaceship: Destiny 1 (because thats what the union will want to put forward that it is their "destiny" to return to the moon united, all as one)

Lander (if you have one in the movie): Alice 1 (Alice goes down the rabbit hole to find a bunch of nazis!)

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Matthew William Whisennand July 21, 2009 22:01 1 Thumb-up
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Name for the Moon Lander

U.S.S. Icarus
(Dare me to fly too high!)
U.S.S. Prometheus
(Now to share Fire with all mankind!)
U.S.S. Samson
(From Bible story Samson and Delilah)
U.S.S. Von Braun
(Ironic isn't it?)
U.S.S. Nietzsche
(I teach you the overman. Man is something that shall be overcome. What have you done to overcome him?)
U.S.S. Oppenheimer
(Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds)
U.S.S. Armstrong
(What else would you call a lander going to the moon?)
U.S.S. Aldrin
(While playing Buzz Aldrin's "Rocket Experience" if possible)
U.S.S. Freedom
(Which gets blown up by Nazi's, how poetic)

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Matthew William Whisennand August 12, 2009 16:40 Flag

U.S.S. Rocketman
(From the song)
U.S.S. Promise
(They broke a Promise)
U.S.S. Hope
(Hope is dead)
U.S.S. Inevitable
(We all gotta die sometime, red)
U.S.S. Repetition
(Here we go again)

Lynn Kirkconnell August 05, 2009 04:43 Flag

U.S.S. Aldrin
(While playing Buzz Aldrin's "Rocket Experience" if possible)

YAYY!!!!!!!

Alejandro Lemus July 22, 2009 14:39 Flag

U.S.S. Taco Bell
(Expanding our frnachise to reach the stars...and far away!!!)

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David Chester August 06, 2009 05:47 3 Thumb-ups
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A couple of names

Endurance

Aurora

Savannah
- The name of the steamship to cross the Atlantic Ocean & also NS Savannah the first nuclear-powered merchant ship.

Intrepid
- Name of the yacht that won the America's Cup in 1967 and 1970
- The name of a number of US warships including an aircraft carrier.
- The class of ship of USS Voyager in Star Trek: Voyager

Beagle (or Beagle 3)
- HMS Beagle carried Charles Darwin
- Beagle 2, unsuccessful Mars lander

Terra Nova
- New Land (or Newfoundland) in Latin
- Involved in a number of Antarctic Expeditions. Most notably the Terra Nova Expedition (1910–1913) involving Robert Scott's attempt to reach the south pole first (they were second after the Roald Amundsen team).

Fram
- Arctic and Antarctic exploration vessel. Lays came to be the farthest north and south sailing wooden vessel.
- Fram was used by Roald Amundsen in his southern polar expedition (1910 to 1912, first to reach the South Pole).

I like Terra Nova, think it would work very well as a spaceship name.

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Guy Bayes July 21, 2009 01:27 1 Thumb-up
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USS Kennedy

named after the president...

special significance when it gets blown to hell

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Lynn Kirkconnell August 05, 2009 04:42 Flag

Blown to hell!?

No way!

It heroically blows a buttload of Space Nazis to kingdom come
and then vanishes utterly and mysteriously.

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Paul-Georg Majev June 19, 2009 12:45 1 Thumb-up
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Odysseus

Odysseus, MM(Mission Moon)-1

In my opinion this would be an adequate name, because Odysseus was a adventurous man, dont knowing if he will return home.

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