Maybe you should be able to delete a production as long as no one has written a shot or a comment.
Or you have a button which will tell the admin that you want to delete that production.

OK, I've changed the title of one accidentaly created project as you described.

my intetntion is not making as much money as possible with the movie sooner get as much people as possible to see the movie and i want to make advertising and pr as much interesting as possible i really want to hype this movie , and if everyone could read the story in parts and sees a transparent production , i think a lot of hype is going to disappear from their minds.
think about cloverfield etc. my storys not based on a book i want to give the people a different view of the theme.
its not a sunday-evening-go-to-cinema-movie

oh i´ve just found that group feature, thanks for your help! im really sorry i wouldn´t ask if i had know that.

As Thierry said, that's what groups are for, but not many people seem to have noticed the groups feature.

If you add certain members of your production to a group within that production, then only they can see what you display to that group.

"if everyone would knew the whole story at the outset"

Well... The lord of the ring movies, The Harry Potter movies, any movie based on a book, seems to sell well enough anyway.

And really, the smart ones are going to wait for the reviews anyway...

Then there is the truth that the film companies find very inconvenient, illegal downloading of movies increases sales. (They are more scared of the legal downloading. They just want to make people scared of downloading in general, so people don't notice things like Energia who struck it big with Star Wreck by offering it for free on the net.)

The only reason to keep things under wraps is if the movie sucks, so you can get as many people as possible to see it before the reviews start trickling out...

That's for what group are....

Wreckage is good, I'd go for that.

How about calling it "Caused Wreckage" or simply just "Wreckage"?

I'd like some kind of better wrecker ranking (i'm way overranked at the moment!), though the karma system is working pretty fine. I've suggested some kind of military rank kind of rankings before. Love the humor there, Stan, but you have to be careful not to take it too unprofessional: The beauty of this site is to make us amateurs feel pros.

It's good, but maybe a bit too easily confused with "wreckupation"?

Thanks for the answers!

Some people use it for other stuff also, someone is actually doing a book here.

Ei kestä. I'll do it en Français first and I'll see what I can do for the Deutsch part.

Go for it Delphine! Kiitos! It would be great to have it in French and German, since Iron Sky and WAM will soon get a lot of attention in those countries. I would do it in Spanish, but my grammar is "fatal"..

Just remain loyal to the original text and copy the references. It can't be too hard;)

What do you guys think - should/could we make a new task "translate the WAM entry in wikipedia"?

I am still looking for a job and I am stuck at home at the moment so I can translate it into French. I might also start the German version if no one wants to do it and I can ask someone to check it afterwards.

I have never written anything on Wikipedia before but it is probably not that much complicated and since I am not that much stupid, I should survive...

Again, great props for Timo and all others for making this happen! It only took a couple of days from my original posting to get it online - collaboration at it's finest.

Somebody at Star Wreck Studios, please send Timo the logo image so it can be perfected.

And people with native-level language skills, get to work translating it to other languages!

Yes, well done Timo. Thumbs up again!

Redirected from 'WAM' and 'Wreck-A-Movie' on both English and Finnish Wikipedias. The case of letters doesn't matter.

Seppo: There could be a list of notable finished movies added to the article once there will be several, or a separate article for the list could be opened to keep the article concise. Now Iron Sky and Sauna are mentioned in text at the end. (+ SW:ItP else in history.)

Jani: 'Wrecking' is not in general use but here, and it's secondary information. Same applies to 'Raven's nest'. Adding them would mostly just lengthen the text, although they'd otherwise be just fine. I added keywords and links to 'crowdsourcing' , 'work'net' and a few others, but 'audience 2.0' was unknown to Wikipedia, so I dropped it. (Perhaps you could write an article of it yourself, and then link it to WAM?)

Creative Commons licensed material is commonly being used here, but as far as I've understood from the Guidelines and EULA, all material here is free for sharing, unless otherwise agreed. (I think that's way too unclearly said in the terms and should be clarified!) With all sorts of licensing possible here, pointing to Creative Commons is difficult.

Need to add those awards and links from elsewhere later once I'll have time.

Kris, that movie is great, but I cannot add it, because it's to much of a promo. I would rather link to it from THIS site.

Another thing you might want to link to perhaps?

http://www.archive.org/details/WhatIsWreckamovie

Big hand to Timo-Heikki! Great job in both languages! I think it is well-written, error-free and concise.

Some things I think could be added to the article:

- If you search Wreck A Movie or Wreck-A-Movie, it doesn't find the proper page. Is there a way "help" the search engine by keywords or something like that?

- Awards that WAM has won or is nominated for. Here are some of the most recent: http://tinyurl.com/yfj4tpb, http://blog.starwreck.com/2008/10/08/wreckamovie-won-the-mindtrek-award/ , http://www.digibusiness.fi/portal/34/?id=24950

- A mention that participating on the site has been coined "wrecking" (source: WAM FAQ).

- Other relevant terms: "crowdsourcing" http://tinyurl.com/yg3jg2f , "audience 2.0" http://tinyurl.com/y8snvl

- In the days prior to it's release WAM was called the Raven's Nest (Korpinpesä). http://tinyurl.com/yfmmvzr . Maybe you should also mention the Star Wreck forums and their IRC channel as it's predecessor.

- Links to Creative Commons licensing, Energia productions and maybe to some other relevant collaborative movie productions.

- Links TO Wreckmovie wiki FROM Star Wreck and other relevant entries

I just read through your text Timo-Heikki. Looks good to me. It could be nice in the future to update the wikipedia page every time there is a finished production to be announced. Just to show that WAM is a productive process in social web

Also available in Finnish now.... http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wreckamovie

It would be good, if some people bothered to proof read the texts.

And translating further into other languages isn't that difficult now, just click 'Edit this page' and change all common text. So, volunteers needed... (I could try Swedish or German, but I'd rather leave it to natives to avoid errors.)

Changed.

All it needs now, is a nice small Wreckamovie logo for picture.

When I did the "What is wreckamovie" videos I was told to correct it to "Wreckamovie" because I'd used a different spelling in the first video.

And that's also the spelling at the top of the page in the browser's title bar so I think it definitely is the official one.

I don't care myself :) , but some people might care and if it has to be done...

So... No Capitals in between? It doesn't really matter in searches, but it's a matter of uniformity. Leaving them off simplifies the looks, of course. But it also makes it look a bit more dull.

I think I'll wait for a reply from the 'Big' Timo... He's the boss here afterall. :)

Timo, it's very good! :)

The only thing you'd really need to change is the name, like you say. I think the rest is fine as far as I can tell, and of course it can be edited if there is anything unsuitable found.

If the name is going to change it's best to do it now while the page is still fresh.

Awwww... Dang! I typed it WreckAMovie...

Gotta delete it now I just got it made?

;)

Take a look first, at least: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WreckAMovie

Timo, I was told the official spelling is now "Wreckamovie".

"Yup, I know the rules."

Sorry! :)

Yup, I know the rules. I took quite some time to make clear what I can write. And hunting for suitable references was a pain in the *ss.

Now, I have a problem with the exact title. I've written a draft using 'WreckAMovie'. But actually I see in more places 'WreckAMovie.com' or 'www.wreckamovie.com' or even 'Wreck-A-Movie'. And I should pick which form to use as the actual title.

Which do you think is best? Or 'official'...?

Also don't hype it at all, just say very neutrally what it does and why it is notable (it's by the producers of Star Wreck and Iron Sky). I think maybe it should be as brief as possible. The one thing we don't want is anyone thinking this is an advert.

Working on it...

Give it a try, Timo. Remember the minimalist wiki-text style and the use of proper outside sources.

If you get some stub together, I can also try to get some text done during the weekend.

Go for it Timo! :)

I might do it. I'm pretty well aware of the stuff in here, but I'm not part of Energia nor staff here, although I've been very active else. I'm not exactly expert on Wikipedia, but I've written this and that in there.

Let's see more about it tomorrow.

Both....actually someone could write the text..and some else less involved could post it...

Thierry, do you mean too busy to do it, or are you worried about "conflict of interest" problems?

I have some wiki expirience, but I think I'm too much involved here.

I think that might be best because the last thing we want is WAM getting a bad name there.

I have zero experience there. Let's wait a bit, and see if someone with wikiexperience shows up.

I'm not a Wikipedia veteran, I've corrected a spelling mistake here and there but not much beyond that.

Jani, are you experienced with editing Wikipedia?

It would have to be someone who isn't a member of staff on WAM or Energia, to comply with Wikipedia's rules on conflicts of interest.

The best person would be, like Jani says, someone who is already a regular contributor so that people can see they're not just part of some PR company.

Just what I need for my movies...

Actually M4A and AAC are almost the same but anyway, great upgrade. Thanks :-)

Mayn other file doesn't work neither, why is that so ?

Sounds brilliant! And no worries - I will bare! Good things take time... and are worth it! :)

And well, just to give a personal example as to why I feel people should be allowed to pick more than three... I love writing, am able to draw patterns/sew simple costumes or create props (weapons and the like), will very gladly show up as an extra/actor, and have some basic knowledge in the graphics/logo-design area's... so well, you see my dilemma... even though I am not a top ace in any of the fields... I really would like to be involved in each so that I can contribute as much as I can... :P