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Developing the Banker stories

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In the Create the Story task there are five stories about a banker: Timo-Heikki Mäkelä's Banker's love, Timo Airisto's An other Banker Story, Tatu Siltanen's Iceland, Laura-Maija Hero's Opera Let Loose and Jack Malinowski's To have and to hold. All stories have similarities: the banker has to face the consequences of his actions and gets in trouble in one way or another. There are many possibilities to combine these stories: It could be a story about one banker, mixed with elements from each individual story or even about five different bankers in different countries, each dealing with their troubles in their own way. I would like the creators of these stories to combine their strengths but everyone who's interested in these stories is welcome to join!


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If this character were a man this is how he would be blackmailed

Jack know's already where I am coming from on this as we have discussed it before.

Character - Major 'Pop' Enthroning - British (retired) Military Industrialist - male?. Blackmail with the incentive of money is easy, people are greedy for power and will do anything to protect that power. This is few ways that people are blackmailed to cover up criminal activities. If any more examples are needed or case studies just let me know. Below is the first part of an explanation of why blackmail works with bankers.

The use of Blackmail

Nietzsche posed the question in his book Beyond Good and Evil

“How much truth can the spirit endure,
How much truth does a spirit dare?”

Blackmail is effective because a man’s spirit or actions are never what could be called truly pure and the blackmailer uses the guilt of sins real or imagined as a weapon of power over others.

Everyone has weaknesses the same as everyone has secrets and that makes everyone vulnerable and open to blackmail, even children. The only person who cannot be blackmailed is a person with a narcissistic personality and generally it is a narcissist who becomes the blackmailer or the planner of a blackmail threat even in a terrorist environment.

Blackmail as a tool to forward Terrorist Activities and Organised Crime

Blackmail in this sphere is a weapon of the imagination utilizing fear to its most effect,

“If I co-operate my fear will not come to pass”

With normal blackmail as in the example of kidnappings or incriminating photographs sent to families or the press it is generally the blackmailer and the victim who have direct interactions either in person or vicariously. Blackmail is an interesting and versatile form of pressure to ensure compliance, it can be short term a one off instrument of gain or it can be used for long term reward.

Blackmail used to advance a Terrorist agenda or other associated Organised Crime displays another facet that being Third Party Pressure.

1. Blackmailer

Who blackmails

2. A person in a position of power over the third party

Who then applies emotional or physical pressure over

3. The third party

This type of Third Party Pressure is the hardest of all to prosecute and many times investigate as the Blackmailer very often does not have direct contact with the Third Party carrying out the act and if the Third Party is caught or investigated on questioning they will admit the incitement is from the person who put pressure directly on them not the original blackmailer. As an interesting aside, even if people die due to an act caused by the Third Party but directly instigated by the Blackmailer, the Blackmailer will not consider that they had anything to do with the deaths, this may mean that a polygraph or other questing will show the blackmailer as innocent because they genuinely believe they are. They didn’t push the button and they did not directly tell the person who pushed the button to push that button. So they had nothing to do with the incident or deaths. It is a very firm disassociation belief held by Mirpuri’s and to a lesser extent by other Pakistani’s. That is why Planners of terrorist offences never take personal responsibility for bombings or attacks because if they weren’t holding the bomb they didn’t do it. The responsibility is taken as the act of the group or on behalf of a figurehead i.e. OBL or AQ.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/beds/bucks/herts/8251746.stm

All the below instances of blackmail have been witnessed.

Money Laundering Through Legitimate Companies

This is simple and straight forward; a Jihadist front business opens up, business A, and asks another local business, business B, next door. Business A then says for one reason or another i.e. don’t have time to go to the bank for urgently needed patty cash, they ask if business B can cash a cheque for them. Business B innocently does business A the favour and cashes the cheque. This happens more than once. Then business A claims they have run out of cheques and asks business B if they will write out a cheque to a supplier who will only accept cheques if business A gives business B the cash. By this time both business men are members of the same small business group and it is ensured by business A they are personal friends. This can carry on for up to a year until it’s time for business B to be audited or Customs and Revenue expect the Returns to be audited. Business B cannot explain some of the transactions or do not comply with Government Money Laundering Reporting Rules. That is when business A says they know of a good accountant who can help with the accounts and amend the books to help out business B. Business B can be blackmailed at any time after that.

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Jack Malinowski June 11, 2010 16:58 Flag

the path of (personal) excess leads to the palace of (personal) wisdom - cliff notes.

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To have and to hold by Jack Malinowski

A long time go in a country very far away, a local girl fell in love with a young driven economist. The young man became a notorious banker and continued the romance, promising to one day marry the local girl once he might a family provide. That day has finally come and the banker has rented a castle to impress the girl’s family and please his love. He has invited the entire town, 80 people, to the affair but only one friend, his best man, from his far away land. The best man is a reporter. The banker has a secret that presents a problem. He’s been caught up in some intrigue and the bad dealings, although lucrative, came at the ultimate price. He’s richer, far richer, than anybody knows, but he can’t keep the money and he’ll soon certainly be fired if not arrested. His only friend, his best man, must help him fake his own death so that he leave his old life absconding with his wife a world away from his troubles with enough money to live happily ever after. The betrothed knows nothing of the circumstances and won’t until the banker’s ‘happily ever after’ plan has been properly executed. The best man is petrified, helping his friend will solidify his career and make him o so rich, but in this day and age, it’ll never work. The castle is haunted by a blacksmith, a king, and the seamstress they fought over. The locals believe anyone who finds love within the castle will love eternally so long as no family ever resides in the castle... Let the hilarity ensue...

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Jack Malinowski June 04, 2010 10:17 Flag

if anyone's interested in creating an english to finnish arc for the text, please let me know.

if not, i'll have to situate the story in some french or spanish castle which i'm told are unleasable and would ruin the story.

otherwise, a scottish castle as was recommended is possible.

myself, i'm leaning towards placing the action in rented castle in hel.

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'GroundingStick' Carl L. June 03, 2010 08:07 2 Thumb-ups
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Putting the Love back into the story

Take this story here:

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http://www.wreckamovie.com/shots/show/6162
Banker's love by Timo-Heikki Mäkelä
An ambitious Banker booms forward and gets to the very top by using every chance opening to him. He dazzles with achievement, creates ingenious inventions, makes friends and makes love with everyone, until desides to change the rules "for the better" and turns them down to get forward - in his own opinion always for the best for everyone, as it initially also seems.

The Banker gets to rule the world. But only by making more promises, "selling more" of himself and borrowing for what he finally realises is impossible to get. He's lethally in love with money, power and greed, but there's no way to turn back. The only way is to continue even further, even deeper towards the inevidently closing certain catastrophe.

Being an ingenious cheater even able to cheat himself, however, the Banker manages to ensure everyone around himself time after time, that everything will just get better by following his advice and by pushing ever further, stronger and faster. And amazingly he does manage to rise from plain catastrophes again and again, and viewers really cannot tell in advance, when it'll actually be the obvious and inevitable end of story. Until it actually is, and everything lies in ruins and the Banker in shame.

As a specialty, the very end of this story could each and every time change a bit, so the spectators could never really know when and how the story ends. At the end, the Banker could save the world numerous times again and again in an intensifying atmosphere, but the number of saves could change each time and include different ideas. It could even be improvised to a degree to hide the actual end to the very last second. And there could even be options for a surprising happy end prepared, so no one really could tell in advance.

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...but replace the one banker with the five members of the 'elite'.
This makes the constant lying, self-cheating, etc more dramatic, and easier to play out on a stage.

THE FIVE are the status quo.
The forces attempting to rule our chaotic world.
They represent the balance of power.

They employ many ways to remain on the good side of the people. There is always somebody else to blame for the problems of society. They will give out charity in the millions. The people love them, not realizing that charity is not change.
They hire assassins, support the cause of fanatics, and set them loose on anyone not
in support of their cause (managing to twist the cause to suit the fives purposes)
The violence can never be traced back to them, save by 'crazy conspiracy theories' put out by the Heroine.

The HEROINE is the unsure future.
She represents the possible disorder. The Yin.
(not in a negative sense, order-disorder are two sides of the same coin)
She starts out as working for one of the five. Possibly a close secretary.
She thinks she is working for the greater good, but soon finds out the truth.
Being an uncorruptible soul, she decides to uncover the truth, and finds the underlying conspiracy of the synarchy.
Deciding that she is in a good position to effect change, she decides to keep her job, and using an anonymous alter-ego, Change Personified (This could be a masked homage to V). She attempts to fight the Establishment from within while trying to educate the People to fight it from without. She is crafty enough not to be caught...
Due to her position she cannot actively engage in fighting the elite, but plants enough defects into their system to form a few cracks, that she then shows to the People who are willing to listen. Mostly a propaganda role.

The Elite then latch on to the Anonymous Alter-Ego, and have a few fanatics perform violence on it's accord. Maybe they manage to manipulate the Alter-Ego for a bit.
Either way, they create an image of mistrust. "If you're against the establishment, then you're a terrorist."

This is how they manipulate the public opinion.

The YOUNG BANKER is the other side of the unsure future.
He represents the possible order. The Yang.
He starts out as an apprentice in their hierarchy. A useful pawn to accomplish the dirty work for each of them. Played to obliterate the competition (the markets, symbolized by the choir), and to thwart attempts by the other four to seize more power.
To stabilize the status quo. To increase power only for the Synarchy (the five).
He is supposed to end up as the scapegoat for all the operations, but always comes away clean...

He might be drawn to the mysterious undefinable innocence of the Heroine. He may try to win her for himself, only to be rejected for his power.

Only in the end do we realize that the Young Banker was the one pulling all the strings in the background all along. And only when he makes the choice which path to follow.
But maybe his choice has been manipulated by the chaotic element in this story
...Love

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'GroundingStick' Carl L. May 29, 2010 01:54 5 Thumb-ups
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EDIT: Updated Hero & Heroine

The Five (the elite), the antagonists:

These could be 'The Five' existing antagonists of the 'Young Banker'.
Depicting the various precipitations of abuse of wealth/power.
They could act both as opponents, allys, and teachers.
The Young Banker's fast rise would have caught their attention, and they would convene on what to do about it.

They have a loose agreement of non-interference with each other, that they are constantly breaking. They might try to pit the young Banker against each other, both to stop him, and to knock out the competition.

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Job D. Roachdlischt - Argentinan Bible Salesman, Polititian
-Sells religious books, funds churches, and happily accepts bribes to change laws.
-Bass
-Stereotype: The villainous Priest

(Details TBD)
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Major 'Pop' Enthroning - British (retired) Military Industrialist
-incites rebellions, supplies both sides
-Contralto
-Stereotype: The Witch, comic role

Major Enthroning is retired from the military, and has used her many connections to build an industrial empire. She is an old woman, that earned her nickname 'Pop' due to her relative closeness to her former troops.
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John Vladekef Resorcinol - Russian Oil Magnate
-pricefixing, pollution, suppresses new technology
-Baritone
-Stereotype: The sometimes helpful Villain

(Details TBD)
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Grigou Besmeurd Wrange - Dutch Banker 'The Old Banker'
-enslaves nations with debt
-Bass
-Stereotype: The villainous King

(Details TBD)
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Karol Ablenudzh - American Stockbroker, Carreer Woman
-uses her wealth to manipulate the stock market
-Mezzo Soprano
-Stereotype: The Mother, the older Woman, the "Trouser Role"

Karol Ablenudzh is a woman who reached her position by sheer ruthlessness. Stepping over anyone in her way. In that sense, she may qualify as a better 'Witch', but as she is younger than the Major, and tries to fit into a 'mens world' (as she sees it) she'd be the better candidate for the "Trouser Role".
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The protagonists:

'Young Banker'
-rose to power with good intentions but power corrupts
-Tenor
Stereotype: The Hero (?)

The Banker's background story goes here.
(This looks like a job for... somebody else!)
Sometimes a hero, sometimes a villain.
He stands at the crossroads:
Defeat the Five at their own game, and assume ultimate power.
Or expose the Five and their dealings, loose everything he has worked for in exchange for world peace & freedom.
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'Heroine' - middle class worker / revolutionary
-maybe works for one of the others, maybe in a relationship/love-triangle. Works hard to bring about the fall of 'The Five' and restore power to the people.
-Soprano
-Stereotype: The Heroine

She would be supported by the choir & audience. She is the voice of the people. By day she is a worker drone, by night she is an anonymous revolutionary, organizing the awakening of the masses. She tries to point out the various levels of control to the people, so they realize how to save themselves by accepting responsibility for their own lives instead of giving up their freedom for virtual safety.
She is vilified by the elite as a danger to society, and cast into the same pot as crazies & terrorists.
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The Neutral parties (The People):

Sung & acted by the Choir.

The people are the shapless majority. They want peace and prosperity.
They can either be antagonists (angry mob, henchmen, terrorists),
protagonists (peaceful protesters, friendly faces, helping hands),
or neutral (working, minding own business)

In my imagination the choir sings together to set the mood of the scene, but single voices will interject every once in a while commenting on what is happening. In favor, or against (symbolizing individuality). When there is a 'protest', a part of them will be the protesters, and one or two might be the henchmen (assassins, terrorists, agent-provocateurs). The protest may be swung around and become a mob.
Assassins would be a single choirmember that stops singing, and starts assembling a rifle, and then tries to take a potshot, blending back into the choir afterwards. Terrorists would be one or two members pealing out of the choir, running with sticks of 'dynamite', jumping to do their deed (landing behind/below stage, and returning to the choir.

Or something like that.

Stereotype information found in: http://www.atlantaopera.org/media/pdf/TAO_Ugly_Duckling_Education_Guide.pdf
(Useful Opera teaching guide)

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'GroundingStick' Carl L. June 03, 2010 06:33 Flag

The original idea for the choir is from Timo-Heikki Mäkelä.
http://www.wreckamovie.com/shots/show/6162
(I just embellished it a bit)

Iida Hämeen-Anttila May 31, 2010 11:19 Flag

Good job, Carl L! I like the fact that these characters represent the stereotypes of a traditional opera but are still very modern. You have thought about their inner controversies and the relationships between the characters. None of the characters is purely good or bad. Also the choir seems to have a big part which I think is good.

What do other writers think about Carl's ideas? Would you like to develop the plot based on these characters? Could we use elements of the original banker story ideas in the plot? Or use these characters in a combination of the earlier stories?

Iida

'GroundingStick' Carl L. May 30, 2010 21:33 Flag

I felt there was a need for a polititian, and assigned one rather randomly. If anyone thinks another antagonist might fit better, please suggest him.

'GroundingStick' Carl L. May 29, 2010 01:56 Flag

Anagrams, guess of who...

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Opera let loose by Laura-Maija Hero

The banker is in the cross roads: weather to choose right or wrong, end up to be the hero or devil. He weights his options and hopes, his needs and his wants. The audience is taken to his past by a back shot: suddenly we are in his childhood and we see the world with his young boys eyes. The boy encourages the opera audience to come with him (the audince stand up and goes out with him). He takes the audience around the casle, out in the dark, and he shows how he swims and palys. The audience is walking as a huge group of people and small boys is leading their way. Candles are given to everyone, and we share a mutual magic moment outside the castle. To be continued later...

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jeremias erkkilä June 01, 2010 09:13 Flag

Sound really interesting idea, but there are some issues. In practice, moving audience during the performance is very difficult and could be annoying.
The opera performance will take place in old castle build back in 15th. century. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olavinlinna
Audience is seated in crowded auditorium for almost 3000 people, passageways and stairways are pretty narrow. Please see the map (link) for reference. http://www.operafestival.fi/In_English/Front_page/mainmenu/Attending_a_Performance/Auditoriums/Olavinlinna_Castle.iw3
But think about other ideas how we could use the audience during the opera.it might be interesting and fun to see.

Jeremias

Iida Hämeen-Anttila May 27, 2010 16:06 Flag

Laura-Maija Hero:

Iida, please create a group for all the banker stories! Let's give this banker a chance!

Iida Hämeen-Anttila:

Dear Timo-Heikki, Timo, Tatu and Laura-Maija, all four of you have written a story including a greedy banker in a turning point of his life where he has to face the consequences of his choices, a very current topic. As your dramaturg I have a suggestion for you: how about teaming up and trying to combine these stories? I could create a group for you if you'd like to try and work as a team.

Iida

Laura-Maija Hero:

There is a challenge with my idea of going out with the young boy: there are hundreds of people and the hall ways are very narrow in this castle. I would like to keep the idea of going out, so how about this: 50 people follow the young boy out with candles in their hands and get an exclusive experience when the young boy sings and dances - swims in the lake and talks with the audience, the rest stays and sees the boys tour with the audience thru a huge videoscreen ? All this is anyways seen in movietheaters and in the internet! The opera goes on, and when they come back they all come thru the stage and the audience sings together with the boy on stage. What do you think? Could work.. I would love a stage director to comment also ..

Aiko Waegelein:

I like this idea because the audience can collaborate with action as like I think the idea how we are making this opera should be somehow connected with the form of Opera By You!

Tatu Siltanen:

I wrote an idea ("Iceland") with similarities. I think it would be possible to combine these stories. Your idea of a decision between two options could become the turning point for the character in my scenario.
I like the idea of an audience walking between scenes.
Can you think of a way to do it?

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An other bank story by Timo Airisto

Sign of times that so many seem to be suggesting bank themed story lines...

I would like to see a greed and subsequent fall story with a strong sarcastic tone - the whole story poking serious fun at the modern day folly that we call the international financial system.

Some characters should be almost like caricatures, comments and logic like out of Dilbert, even some power point presentations included.

The setting could be a fat cat bankers annual party at his humble private residence (The Olavi Castle) and the opera audience his quests. Would be nice to see an interactive element (with the audience) in the performance as there is one in the creation of the opera.

I leave the details to the real writers :)

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Iida Hämeen-Anttila May 31, 2010 11:34 Flag

Good thinking! What do other writers think? Love story or a social commentary or both?

It's true that moving the audience in Olavinlinna is probably too challenging. As I have a theater background I like the idea of the audience playing some sort of part in the plot.

Iida

Jack Malinowski May 28, 2010 09:04 Flag

i'm prepared to start writing the love tragedy arc (with the surprising love triumph at the end).

unfortunately, i don't have finnish or gaelic at beck & call.

:(

i wonder if the alien character of the 'rich american' coming to an exotic castle would be ripe for lacing vulgar english in a more, er, site specific language?

such that the opera transforms the character from vulgar to heroic...

Timo Airisto May 28, 2010 08:51 Flag

To all fellow "Banker" enthusiasts: It seems like there are three common themes running through (almost) all of the suggestions: (i) we are in a critical moment of the bankers life; (ii) his has a dark past; and (iii) that the venue (Olavinlinna) and the audience should play a role.

Here is what I think about these elements:

(i) Critical moment: It has to be. Opera is of great emotinons and those you can only find at pivotal moments of our lives.

(ii) Dark past: A secrect that though the different acts (i.e. parts of the opera) bubbles to the surface, is what should bring the banker to the critical moment and great emotions. I prefer the idea of greed leading to fall from grace and decend into financial ruin over an (unfulfilled) love story, simply cause I would like the story make a social comment as well.

But maybe we could combine these somehow? Maybe the reason the people have gathered to Olavinlinna is to celebrate the banker's wedding (like Jack suggested) that a greed led secret is threathning to destroy? I would like to see the story to develop to the "repent, redeem, love triumps" direction if we simply skip the social commentery, but maybe thats too corny?

(iii) Olavinlinna: It's a great place, and one could easily imagine it as something a very rich american with Scottish ansestery has bought in Scottland(?), so its a prop in itself, but I am not sure we need to emphasize this past making the audience believe they are, in a fashion, sitting on the stage (i.e. inside the bankers home) vs. purely in the audience as in a normal opera house.

I am not so sure practical it would be to have the audience move during the performance, but since many of them will be dressed up to go to the opera, we could easily include them into the wedding party? To emphasize this, maybe couple of the actors could sit (and sing from) among the audience. This could also provide for the always changing element Timo-Heikki was after: have the actors that sit in the audience be different and sit in different places every evening.

Anyway, look forfard to all of your ideas.

Iida Hämeen-Anttila May 27, 2010 16:00 Flag

Earlier comments:

Javier Gombinsky:

Actually, I don't know how useful this comment can be, but now that I think about it, I once read a novel with a character that was a Minister of Economy and he saw money and numbers as a romantic quest for I don't remember what (all i remember is thinking "wow, an interesting minister of economy").
The novel was "Megafon o la Guerra" ("Megafon or The War") by argentinian writer Leopoldo Marechal.
I'll give it another read to see if i can send you some comments (that don't involve stealing the whole character).

Javier Gombinsky:

ida, Timo, of course I totally agree that you guys (all those who favor the banker thing) SHOULD develop the banker idea. I was just saying that I, personally, can't think of a fun, passionate story about a banker that doesn't turn into a macro-economy lesson, but if you guys can pull it off, hats off to you!

Jack Malinowski:

somebody write the aria:

:L

:O

would have could have should have done what was on page 237 of the macro 101 econ. text book and not what was on 102, how could i have been so blind as to use 237 of 101 when 102 of 101 was right there? i must have been thinking 123! i'm ruined! ruined! ruined for life!!! now i'll never be a proper philanthropist! why me?! in tax haven! i never thought it would be! how embarrassing.

:L

Timo Airisto:

@ Javier -LOL!! Well put!

I totally agree that an opera about the macroeconomic finepoints of global economy would be enough to put ADHD crack addicts to sleep, but that was not really my point.

I was more thinking about a story that examined the impact of un-brideled greed in peoples lives. It's just that the real life stories all seem to revolve around bankers and the financial system (yes, there are examples from other fields of corporate life, but their impact on others is so much smaller).

And has opera not always been about big emotions, difficult personal choices, rivaling interests and devastating losses (love or otherwise)? I think that a story about the lenghts a man is driven by his greed, the cost he has to pay along the way and eventual moment of life catching up, could be a good one set in a financial world setting (but maybe as a drama vs. what I first suggested).

@ Iida - happy to cooperate, but I have to confess that I really am not a writer, more of an idea guy.

Iida Hämeen-Anttila:

Dear Javier, there are many interesting stories here. At this point we are still developing ideas and I will be giving feed back to other writers too. Because this is a collective project I think people who have written from similar subjects could share ideas and develop them together.

Iida

"GroundingStick" Carl L:

It interested me 10 years ago, and it will still interest me in 50 years.
Though, I'd like to think that by then I'd be able to add it to my interest in historical blunders.

Jack Malinowski:

javii,

theater is critical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBEvmAB70kc

Javier Gombinsky

Also:

Would this story have interested you a few years ago?

We should try to write something that would have, a few years ago, now, and in the years to come.
We should write characters as if they shit marble! (Amadeus joke)

signed by an argentinian, who suffered this same crisis nine years ago, and now he could not care less about an opera about this.

Javier Gombinsky:

Please don't take this the wrong way, but if someone forced me to watch an opera about a banker, I'd slit my wrists with my own teeth.
Furthermore, it seems to me that you guys are aiming to make an opera with "social critique" about a specific issue which may or may not involve bankers being evil (maybe a desk full of economists can discuss this, but certainly not me, and probably not an opera that aims to entertain). Intellectuals in every Economy university and Nobel prize winners are still debating who's to blame and why. Speaking as a potential opera attendant, I would never go to an Opera to be lectured about pros and cons of macroeconomy theories.
You guys are doing something completely new here with these project. Please, please don't waste it on a banker story!

Iida Hämeen-Anttila:

Dear Timo-Heikki, Timo, Tatu and Laura-Maija, all four of you have written a story including a greedy banker in a turning point of his life where he has to face the consequences of his choices, a very current topic. As your dramaturg I have a suggestion for you: how about teaming up and trying to combine these stories? I could create a group for you if you'd like to try and work as a team.

Iida

David Johansson:

I like this idea. This idea wont go through if it entails stepping on the toes of the production leaders' political views. But an Opera that points out how the free market and economic growth at any cost philosophy that so many countries follow always lead to grand scale exploitation would be quite refreshing.

And, such a story could easily be put in a space opera setting. :)

"GroundingStick" Carl L.:

The debt-enslavement-conspiracy could be part of this play:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HdmA3vPbSU
(The Goldsmith's Tale)

Which is part of a larger film
http://preview.tinyurl.com/Money-as-Debt-Youtube-Playlist
(Money as Debt)

"GroundingStick" Carl L.:

These songs come to mind immediately:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNs4YiISL-E
(Chumbawamba - How to get your Band on Television)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWLHpuLrpyk
(Chumbawamba - Liberation/Stagnation)

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The operatives are eagerly waiting for new comments and ideas here at the new tasks! You can still brainstorm freely. The questions are made to help you on your way creating an opera. After all it’s an opera by you! Your libretist will be checking for new comments on Monday and give you more help.
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Iida Hämeen-Anttila May 27, 2010 15:21 Production Leader 1 Thumb-up
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Iceland by Tatu Siltanen

A tale of hubris and nemesis. The setting: modern Iceland, the land of fire and ice.

The story of a man with a heart of ice: a banker who coolly masterminds schemes for other people's demise. He gathers immense wealth and power and plans to enslave all people as mere numbers in his all-encompassing calculation.

But he faces the forces of nature, madness and fate.

He struggles to finish a numerical description of the world, but the world refuses to yield to him.

A ghost from the past appears in the form of a former lover whom he has thrown into madness. First he denies the truth but then he understands that his calculations fail because of a missing factor: it is others who pay the price for his actions.

As old wounds burst open, volcanic lava bursts onto the stage. As hellfire burns him and his only love, he suffers the pain he has given others. The fire burns, the dreams turn to dust and ashes. In the end, a cloud of ash buries everything.

Or something like that...

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Iida Hämeen-Anttila May 27, 2010 16:02 Flag

"GroundingStick" Carl L.:

Sounds like a plan.

Iida Hämeen-Anttila:

Dear Timo-Heikki, Timo, Tatu and Laura-Maija, all four of you have written a story including a greedy banker in a turning point of his life where he has to face the consequences of his choices, a very current topic. As your dramaturg I have a suggestion for you: how about teaming up and trying to combine these stories? I could create a group for you if you'd like to try and work as a team.

Iida

Iida Hämeen-Anttila May 27, 2010 15:19 Production Leader 2 Thumb-ups
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Banker's love by Timo-Heikki Mäkelä

An ambitious Banker booms forward and gets to the very top by using every chance opening to him. He dazzles with achievement, creates ingenious inventions, makes friends and makes love with everyone, until desides to change the rules "for the better" and turns them down to get forward - in his own opinion always for the best for everyone, as it initially also seems.

The Banker gets to rule the world. But only by making more promises, "selling more" of himself and borrowing for what he finally realises is impossible to get. He's lethally in love with money, power and greed, but there's no way to turn back. The only way is to continue even further, even deeper towards the inevidently closing certain catastrophe.

Being an ingenious cheater even able to cheat himself, however, the Banker manages to ensure everyone around himself time after time, that everything will just get better by following his advice and by pushing ever further, stronger and faster. And amazingly he does manage to rise from plain catastrophes again and again, and viewers really cannot tell in advance, when it'll actually be the obvious and inevitable end of story. Until it actually is, and everything lies in ruins and the Banker in shame.

As a specialty, the very end of this story could each and every time change a bit, so the spectators could never really know when and how the story ends. At the end, the Banker could save the world numerous times again and again in an intensifying atmosphere, but the number of saves could change each time and include different ideas. It could even be improvised to a degree to hide the actual end to the very last second. And there could even be options for a surprising happy end prepared, so no one really could tell in advance.

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Iida Hämeen-Anttila May 27, 2010 15:37 Flag

Earlier comments:

Iida Hämeen-Anttila:

Dear Timo-Heikki, Timo, Tatu and Laura-Maija, all four of you have written a story including a greedy banker in a turning point of his life where he has to face the consequences of his choices, a very current topic. As your dramaturg I have a suggestion for you: how about teaming up and trying to combine these stories? I could create a group for you if you'd like to try and work as a team.

Iida

"GroundingStick" Carl L.:

As I suggested in the more focused version of a Banker-Opera by Timo Airisto, Chumbawumba can be a good inspiration.
Check out this album:
(1-4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8is7ywWoik
(2-4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FuEWuK6QOo
(3-4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqhzVDHSf_s
(4-4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X62h8Wf5mY

"GroundingStick" Carl L.:

Useful Propaganda:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173#
(Aaron Russo's From Freedom To Fascism)

Seppo Hiltunen:

Now that collapse of WTC at 2001 is one phenomenon that makes the Banker's story very operatic. Thumb up.

Timo-Heikki Mäkelä:

One of the demises the Banker(s) face could be the collapse of WTC (911). Having raised bitter enemies, these attack the Banker's core possessions, which raises the 'bets' considerably and forces him/them to lose their temper and go to fullout war.

The collapse of WTC might be a nice challenge for the organisers to organise a huge, truly opera-scale scene on stage...

Timo-Heikki Mäkelä:

On Seppo: I'd say my idea rather considers the madness of the spirit of the humankind (society) as a whole than the madness of any single person. The point may even be, that each person may act utmost rationally each, but their acts put together becomes plain madness.

Seppo Hiltunen

The way the money is not anymore a direct measurement for values of products and services but a thing to be traded itself and to build insane "instruments" fot the expectations of the fure values - in one word, play of greed.

I like Timo Heikki's idea. It goes deep into human soul, both on light and dark sides.

Timo-Heikki Mäkelä:

Tatu, although similar, our ideas consider different cases. Your idea sounds more focused on a single economic catastrophe, which could occur in a somewhat mystic environment, and results in global effects. I see your idea considering more personal greed than mine, too. Mine is considering events at a global level altogether. (Well, the largest US banks, the FED, US Treasury and the White House do in fact form the very top of world economics and politics.) So, I'd keep the ideas separate.

I do like the part in your idea, that it can more obviously include mystics. My idea's strength is perhaps the possibility to capture a more general insanity of the current world and its organisation, economical systems and politics. But I wouldn't mix them.

Tatu Siltanen:

I too wrote a story about a banker. It's called "Iceland".
I think I had some pretty good ideas (the setting, a structure, an ending) but I'm missing some of the meat or a good story. I think it would be possible to combine your idea with mine. Your idea could become the main story inside my sketch. What do you think?

Timo-Heikki Mäkelä

Inspired by the history, of course. I wouldn't stick too much to the reality though. The story could reflect the real events to some degree, but the main characters would be mixing several real-life characters and their roles, as the script would certainly become too fuzzy there would be too many characters on stage, if the roles of each character would be followed exactly.

Obviously the choir could play "general public" and "markets". There should be a couple of other similar top figures, some of them representing politicians and others regulators and competitors. I'd say "frenemies" should play a vital role, female frenemies also having roles of lovers to the Banker. There might also be not just one Banker in main role but several, and their roles changing places.

"GroundingStick" Carl L.:

There could be a couple of ruthless and semi-ruthless bankers competing.
Throughout the play they would be plotting against each other, teaming up, and then turning on each other.
In some endings they would rule the world together in peace. Sometimes they would duke it out in global war leaving it in stone-age shambles.
And sometimes the subjects (people) win, forming a peaceful, low/high-tech, or warmongering, fascist, etc... world.

I'd say the golden number is 5.

"GroundingStick" Carl L.:

Inspired by history? I like this story. We may be able to learn alot here.