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EARTH FLEET: Middle-East

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Created atNovember 13, 2008
Created byTimo Vuorensola
ClosedNovember 25, 2009
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Jokke Kaksonen Mirrors
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Paul Day Middle East involvement
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Lasse Kleemola Small stellated dodecahedron
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Timo-Heikki Mäkelä Lavish luxury
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MajorD Flying buildings and boarding actions
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Jykke Influences from a sword ?
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Tino Van Horen Commercial spaceflights.
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Closing Note

Thanks *everyone* for great shots and comments! We've had so far very good ideas, and will start designing the Earth Fleet ships based on your ideas.

We're going to need further assistance later on, and we'll put more specific tasks as we move along.

Great stuff!

Description

In Iron Sky, the Earth will stand up and defend itself against the Nazi enemy. In 2018, many of the countries have developed their space program - maybe in the shadows, maybe in open - to also be able to engage in a fight in the orbit or in deep space, if necessary.

In this task, we need ideas for what the space ship of the Middle-East would look like, and under what flag it would fly?

We'd request everything from descriptions to concept drawings, from crude ideas to finalized artwork - whatever is your game.

Few guidelines:

- The film is set in 2018 - so don't get over-excited on tech!
- There's no such thing as "interstellar travel" or "antigravity" invented.
- Be reasonable - try to be functional, and limit your ideas to feasible technologial advancements.
- For ideas, you can look for example the "Venture Star" -program: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venture_Star
- Also, the ideas can be pretty wacky ones - maybe some huge project a country has been working on is, instead of being what it looks like, a battleship?

We've already discussed the weapons technology in the previous task:

http://www.wreckamovie.com/tasks/show/52

Maybe reading through the thumbed-up -shots (you can sort them in the task) would give some ideas as well.

Included you'll find some concept art of stuff our concept artist Jussi has done. You may use them non-commercially and share them with others, but not claim them your own or charge money from them. Here's more info on the CC-license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/us/

As the licence in Iron Sky production requires, you need to give all the rights for derivative or original work you do for this task to the Iron Sky team for us being able to use them.

Go for it, people! Let's design the greatest space fleet in the history of film!


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Jokke Kaksonen July 09, 2009 06:59 6 Thumb-ups
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Mirrors

Into mind comes that maybe the middle east has started to prepare for the times when oil is no longer an option.

They could have huge solar power fields in the deserts, and Earth based laserguns.

In space they could have a bunch of spacemirrors, with the original purpose to redirect the suns energy into a solar platform that would then beam the energy down to earth.

Once the crisis strikes they decide to use the mirrors as a weapon and by co-ordinating the mirrors to concentrate the sunbeams into one spot, they can fry any ship that happens to be there :)

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Jason M. August 03, 2009 07:06 Flag

I like this idea, I wonder if it's possible for the rays to incapacitate a crew and not destroy the ship they are on?

MajorD July 09, 2009 17:37 Flag

This makes great sense and would look great on screen.

The way power will be transmitted from orbital mirrors is to convert the electricity into microwaves and beam them to Earth where they will be collected by antenna. So, the weapon would probably involve pointing the microwave emitter at the enemy with the solar panels at the sun.

Unless, they use mirrors to direct sunshine directly at either Earth based solar cells or solar furnaces used to heat water for steam. They could have both but I think the former is more efficient than the latter.

(null) July 09, 2009 16:44 Flag

Good idea, and the most advanced oil-based economies are indeed investing heavily in alternative sources of income and energy in real life, so this idea is particularly believable.

Stig-Magnus Gjerald July 09, 2009 09:48 Flag

Archimedes heat ray in other words:-)

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Tino Van Horen August 02, 2009 18:17 1 Thumb-up
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Commercial spaceflights.

While I don't see any of the ME nations press forward a significant space program, one exception might be Dubai. As they like to do grand scale futuristic projects, they might have made some kind of temporary (liner) or full-time hotel in space, with a few small shuttles for emergency services.

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Yan Pagh August 02, 2009 20:43 Flag

I wouldnt doubt that Dubai would host the first space elevator.

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Tom Thomssen July 14, 2009 16:19 1 Thumb-up
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Exile to Mars

The Arabs have known that they will run out of oil much sooner than other countries believe. They have made secret plans to evacuate their leading tribes to Mars before a world war over the last oil supplies begins.
With unlimited resources and a history of conflicts their ships are as beautiful as they are dangerous. They are prepared to shoot down American destroyer satellites and kill any boarding astronauts. On the other hand they look as sleek and beautiful as their jewelry and daggers.
Allahu Akbar!

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Lynn Kirkconnell July 14, 2009 16:50 Flag

Very interesting.....the design elements can be incredibly complex and dazzling.

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Paul Day July 09, 2009 06:46 5 Thumb-ups
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Middle East involvement

It would seem more likely that much of the Middle East would initially sympathise with the Nazi's anti-semitism, until persuaded otherwise - perhaps by a realisation that the first thing the Nazi's want is their oil. At this stage some sheepish, former Iraqi chiefs might finally admit to having one BIG weapon of mass destruction hidden away in the desert. It would probably look shit but it wouldn't half pack a punch.

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MajorD July 09, 2009 17:33 Flag

I was going to mention the Middle East wanting to side with the Nazis but I was overwhelmed with politically correct feelings. Screw it, have them trying to ally with the Nazis only to literally have their oil sucked out of the ground and flown away by flying saucers without their permission.

Maybe not all of the countries there would side with the Nazis but I think a few would try.

(null) July 09, 2009 16:39 Flag

I really really wouldn't go there in a comedy action film... There are SO many current burning political issues which would distract people from the film itself.

The Indiana Jones films largely ignored the Nazi's anti-semitism, because Spielberg knew it wouldn't work dramatically in a film from a light-hearted genre.

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MajorD July 08, 2009 22:18 1 Thumb-up
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Flying buildings and boarding actions

If anyone is going to use skyscraper ships these are the guys to do it.

I can't get the idea out of my head that they should attack using guys in space suits launched, from their flying buildings, at their enemy.

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Mr. Anonymous March 05, 2009 03:57 1 Thumb-up
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Dubai like ship

Ok- we all know Dubai is the city growing the most in the Middle East. Why don't we have some Dubai inspired architecture floating around space?

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Mr. Anonymous March 06, 2009 03:09 Flag

Lets see, there is a famous hotel shaped like a sailboat called the Burj Al Arab. It is a very famous building.

Also, I am thinking of the Burj Dubai, currently the world's tallest structure. And even some of the planned ideas, the moving building, the Nakheel Tower, all that stuff. Basically, the Middle East should have the spiffiest spaceship, because they seem to have that boom of technology happening right now.

[User has left the building] March 05, 2009 10:04 Flag

Well, I lived in Dubai for 2 years working as part of a theatre street company and I have seen just a big explosion of Western cutting edge commercial architectures and business, wilst Eastern culture was merely confined in the poor areas of the city.

Can you give an example of Dubai inspired architecture?

Simone

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Lasse Kleemola November 14, 2008 07:51 2 Thumb-ups
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Small stellated dodecahedron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_stellated_dodecahedron

I got the idea from a lantern of this shape that my father brought as a souvenir from Egypt. Somehow, the shape just screams "Middle East" to me. The shape is composed of pentagrammic facets, the pentagram being found on Morocco's flag and having been the seal of the City of Jerusalem (and possibly the seal of King Solomon). From a certain angle, it does resemble the Star of David but is not as clearly identified with any single religion. (It could even be that the threat of Space Nazis, intent on wiping out the entire Semitic race, would finally unite Israel and the Arabs against a common foe...)

The shape might not be suitable for a manned spaceship, but more like a killer satellite or space mine.

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Ben Tennenbaum December 19, 2008 04:08 Flag

Something akin to the Reagan plan of the 1980s: the Star Wars' satellites, able to shoot down any Soviet Missile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_high_energy_laser

The laser would have to be greatly expanded upon, though. But this ideas has great application. However, star mines wouldn't work as the explosion would require oxygen, a commodity not available in space. However, the mine could attach itself to an enemy ship, drill a hole inside the ship allowing air to escape, then detonate, as some air would've escaped. Or the mine could have an oxygen supply inside.

Jack Malinowski November 16, 2008 02:26 Flag

Good One!

Arttu Seppälä November 14, 2008 14:07 Flag

Mine idea is quite good, when you think of space fight.. Those spaceships cost a fortune, so you don't want to get too up and close with the enemy. It would be good to launch huge amounts of mines, rockets and disturbance satellites to the area between the fighting forces. The further you can harm your enemy the better.

Small ships fleeing the enemy could drop a bunch of those star-mines to slow down their pursuers.

Timo Vuorensola November 14, 2008 11:16 Flag

Whoa, that's actually pretty nice idea there, Lasse! Interesting, a killer satellite or a swarm of killer satellites of that type would be very interesting. Would somebody be interested in continuing from this idea forwards?

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Ben Tennenbaum December 19, 2008 04:01 1 Thumb-up
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Power Sources

The Arab World is the leading exporter of oil, so they shouldn't use any other form of fuel. That is not to say that other nations don't, but the Arab Space Fleet must have their ships powered by petroleum.

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Jykke November 18, 2008 17:37 1 Thumb-up
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Influences from a sword ?

Would be cool if the design had some influences from an arabian sword or something like that. For example in the shape of the curves on the ship.

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Timo-Heikki Mäkelä November 14, 2008 10:10 2 Thumb-ups
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Lavish luxury

Arabs have the dough, so they'll be mostly interested in luxury. Make their spaceships seem lavish luxury boats with pools and stuff rather than streamlined battlevehicles. Though their armament shouldn't be next to anyone either - just hidden and discreet, and controllable with utmost lack of bother. (The sheikh-in-command taking a bubblebath with virgins while accepting measures...)

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Jack Malinowski November 16, 2008 01:39 Flag

Cults, Religions, Vacation Resorts, and Cities grew up around hot-springs, oasises, fresh air spots, dry air spots, etc. Already people say they like to look at the sunset 'for the Lithium,' perhaps the 'luxury liners,' may offer 'medicinal,' benefits to gliding in low-orbit that may or may not be available in their home states, etc...

My question is, as this marks the beginning of an earth-fleet, would it be a 'free market' fleet (ie. some countries are just there while others aren't), a G-8 fleet, a World Bank fleet, or a UN fleet?

I would think that it would approximate the Nuclear power. Once a state has the ability to navigate low orbit - it can manipulate vast amounts of information and must be inducted into a union of sorts with by-laws and conventions.... that come from a history of MooNazis! (of course!)