Thanks *everyone* for great shots and comments! We've had so far very good ideas, and will start designing the Earth Fleet ships based on your ideas.
We're going to need further assistance later on, and we'll put more specific tasks as we move along.
Great stuff!
In Iron Sky, the Earth will stand up and defend itself against the Nazi enemy. In 2018, many of the countries have developed their space program - maybe in the shadows, maybe in open - to also be able to engage in a fight in the orbit or in deep space, if necessary.
In this task, we need ideas for what the space ship of the People's Republic of China would look like.
We'd request everything from descriptions to concept drawings, from crude ideas to finalized artwork - whatever is your game.
Few guidelines:
- The film is set in 2018 - so don't get over-excited on tech!
- There's no such thing as "interstellar travel" or "antigravity" invented.
- Be reasonable - try to be functional, and limit your ideas to feasible technologial advancements.
- For ideas, you can look for example the "Venture Star" -program: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venture_Star
- Also, the ideas can be pretty wacky ones - maybe some huge project a country has been working on is, instead of being what it looks like, a battleship?
We've already discussed the weapons technology in the previous task:
http://www.wreckamovie.com/tasks/show/52
Maybe reading through the thumbed-up -shots (you can sort them in the task) would give some ideas as well.
Included you'll find some concept art of stuff our concept artist Jussi has done. You may use them non-commercially and share them with others, but not claim them your own or charge money from them. Here's more info on the CC-license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/us/
As the licence in Iron Sky production requires, you need to give all the rights for derivative or original work you do for this task to the Iron Sky team for us being able to use them.
Go for it, people! Let's design the greatest space fleet in the history of film!
A Chinese orbital defense station.
It's equiped with 16 long range heavy cannons, 4 missiles launchers and there's also a large bay for shuttles.
A very expensive "Star Wars" project... But not for China! ;)
Yes, yes.... this topic is closed. Please forgive me. This is my first post. I have to get some practice, you know. A couple of weeks ago I saw a documentary about Taipei 101 building drawn by a Chinese architect. Particularly interesting are the details. Wait ... Maybe I can get you a pic http://tinyurl.com/lsyfh8 Want some more? http://tinyurl.com/r42ps4 http://tinyurl.com/lenokk
i like the ideas previously stated that the chinese would resemble russia in their tech designk but i was also thinking that maybe in a few parts of the ship (like the bridge) it could have some oriental twists to it. like those neat looking dragons and fancy looking walls with all the carvings. same goes for the japs if they come into the movie
One is a bomber and the other is a fighter
I tried giving the fighter a little oriental looks based in ancient chinese war chariot, see if you like.
I posted this idea to the arming the earth fleet section before I realised it was closed already. But heck, it will suit this one even better.
Since many, if not all, modern metropolises have huge sky scrapers, how about a secret hiding in them. Perhaps some of them have been designed to be used as missiles or space craft! A "support construct" in the middle could be the actual spacecraft hull, propulsion system would be hidden in the basement floors, with fuel tanks, control rooms etc. hidden in "keep out" areas. When the missile/ship was launched the rest of the building would of course collapse around it, starting from the top so the missile/craft will have an unimpeded access to the skies.
Chinese would produce small, unmmaned fighters guided by remote control, and these devices would be controlled by seasoned teenagers that would figt from an specially designed control area. These teenagers from all over the world would be recruited by the war game software developers that have a record of the most skilled players on earth. It would be funny to see all over the world the same scene: militar personnel knocking at your home asking for the boys to defend earth against a nazi invasion from space!! What face do you think parents would have??
I think these could be a good idea because being unmmaned these artifacts wouldn`t require a great investment in life support systems, allowing them to be smaller or have more offensive cargo or even act like kamikazes with no lives lost, after all, is a comedy, isn`t?
Basicly after the 1st gulf war the Chinese force turned to learn from western forces than Russian force. So the Chinese Fleet's vessals would mostly have a structure close to western ships, especially EU ships, and because of the oriantal taste, that neither Chinese nor Japanese like the ship have "skeleton structure" without covered by smooth armour plates, and the culture affct to the main designers at that time from the Japanese Anime, the Chinese Fleet would have more "anime look" appearence than classic american SCI-FI ships, and because of that let the large vessals reenter the aerosphare is uneconomical, the chinese ships would not be shattle like, bust mostly like a pencil or cigar, just like the ships in MACROSS of The Legend of Galactic Heroes.
Well, it takes a little bit time to really come out with the Chinese fleet design, but I do have another idea.
Like what Lasse Kleemola said down there "in Chinese culture, copying an innovation or an entire machine is not seen as trespassing", why dont we make the sub-story like: Chinese do have some fleet but not so advanced, their only advantage is the massive number, which we call it "the 1st generation". Their technology is not too bad but still cant deal with the Nazis. But then they managed to capture a Nazi space ship, they took it apart and started manufacturing it! In this case, we actually have a 2nd stage of china's fleet which look kinda like the Nazi's fleet but a slightly different version.
I came out with this idea because as we all know China likes to copy other countries' products and produce it cheaply. since we are wrecking a movie, why dont we make fun of China's this "culture" a little bit? XD And imagine these huge number of cheaply produced space ships copied from the Nazis actually helped in defeating the Nazis, that will be really sarcastic and this can add some more depth into the movie as well as reflecting this real life issue.
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GGGRRREEEAATTT!!!!
That's like modern Shanghai, cold steel and glass, but still having something clarly chinese in it. Hmmm... How about using more red and gold for coloring another ship, though? In space camouflage really doesn't count...
lol David! :D
Stupid station made in China!
It needs railguns... Heavy cannons aren't operationals against fighters (Too slow).
LOL David, I think one of the Star Wrecks had similar jokes about the real films' plot holes.
Well, and it's supposed to be a comedy, right? You can always exploit design flaws for comedy.
You could use my expressions straight off maybe. :D
Flight leader: "The chinese space station has a design flaw, there are no gun on the roof. Imagine a really fat person trying to shoot at paratroopers with his feet while standing."
Private 1: "So this station could be taken out by idly sauntering in from the top and dropping a bomb like a pigeon taking a crap?"
Flight leader: "In it's faecal absurdness, yes."
Private 2: "Noooo. There is no way they could build a big space battle platform like that and be stupid enough to make such a design flaw."
Private 3: "Maybe they have hidden defences on top?"
Flight leader: "Shut up private. Don't make this more complicated than it has to be."
Private 3: "But.."
Flight leader: "That's it, you're off this mission!"
David, stuff on the roof would spoil the chinese effect which is what's so distinctive. I agree this design would be impractical, but it looks darn good so maybe we should just quietly ignore the design flaw?
Yay!
But with the "pigeon taking a crap" I kind of meant that the station would be vulnerable from attack from the "top". It would need a battery on the "roof". Imagine a really fat person trying to shoot at paratroopers with his feet while standing.
But the nukes are a nice touch, and, Scaaaary!
Hello David!
Thanks!
You're right... I've posted a new version with a weapon platform inverted.
And, good idea for the bombs dropping (Low orbit is a good place for launching nukes)!
So i've quickly added 4 nuclear missiles under the station. ;)
I would put the lower row (or upper row, which doesn't matter as long as it isn't both rows,) of long range cannons and missile launchers upside down, mounted on the underside (from the subjective point of view of the picture) of the platforms, for that Zero G space feel.
Also, something to indicate a defence net on the top side. It feels like this station could be taken out by idly sauntering in from the top and dropping a bomb like a pigeon taking a crap.
You got some damn nice designs though.
Hello Peter!
Thank you for your comment. :)
I do not use Blender for modeling or rendering (I essentially use Wings 3D).
My pics results of a personal "melting pot" with a lot of 2D post effects.
I can share my meshes in *.obj format if anyone is interested...
So, i'm gona see http://renderfarm.fi/.
And for "Star Wreck 2TT" designs -> I'll work on it soon.
Yann, I think you have really captured the Chinese look and feel for a space station very nicely. And as you say, the Chinese could afford something like this, could be their Star Wars project.
Would be great if we could get some kind of pipeline going so that people with time and Blender skills could start doing all kinds of cool things with your designs. And that would also put the http://renderfarm.fi distributed rendering into good use.
Have you looked at the designs needed for Star Wreck 2pi by any chance? You can find the task here: http://www.wreckamovie.com/tasks/show/267
Yann, I think you've got the balance just right if people notice it without knowing whether it's deliberate.
Yes it was. ;)
I've thought of dragon's heads in each corner, but it was a bit "too much".
I love the way the solar panel platform is a little like the style of a typical Chinese roof. Was that deliberate?
It needs to look more like a cardboard take away container ;-)