| Created at | February 08, 2010 |
| Created by | Kris S. |
| Deadline | Not set |
| Shots given | 7 |
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The "What Is Wreckamovie?" Video -team is looking for your ideas and comments. Join and show your support for "What Is Wreckamovie?" Video. Feedback on updated video?
DescriptionAbove you can see an updated version of the "What is Wreckamovie" video, with two main aims: -To show a greater variety of productions on Wreckamovie, so that people don't think this is a scifi-only site. -To have much simpler text so that it's easier to translate into many languages. Any feedback on this video would be welcome. If people feel it's ok, it could then replace the current "What is Wreckamovie" video.
ShotsMaybe a summary at the very beginningI got this though about the very beginning of the video: Maybe you should begin sharp, and give a quick answer to the "what is wreckamovie" -question right at the beginning (during the zoom and the iceview). Something like: "What is Wreckamovie? (zoom) It's collaborative filmmaking online, (iceview) Where anyone can become a movie maker! (closeup) This is how it all started..." Now the looong intro zoom and view of the guys on ice that does nothing. And it takes over a minute to get to the answer to the question posted at the title screen. In today's ADHD world many viewers might not have the patience to wait. What do you think?  Michael MonroeThis is a bit unprofessional but... wow! Did someone put something in my tea this morning? 
CommentsThis shot doesn't have comments.  Wreck-A-Movie is...I like the new intro much more... but as I believe I told Kris before (on a Landing conference call, lol) I cannot help wondering whether the text "This is Wreckamovie" could/should be replaced by the WAM logo itself, floating in between clouds. Possibly, it could say something like: "(Wreck-A-Movie) is..." Further, I personally fear that the gap in between the first text/title and the first line of explanation may be slightly too long and risk losing people's attention when nothing at all happens within the first 30seconds of the video. Possible alternate timing/sample text (feel free to rephrase!) 0:00-0:05: What is (Wreck-a-Movie)? (with logo)
Just IMHO of course. There's a chance the timing is just perfect and I am the one suffering of ADHD disorder. I've been told that before... ;P CommentsI have to agree with Angela about timing. From my own experience people first check lenght of a video and then make a decision to try it or not. Especially when it's something new for them. I think length 3:40 is pretty ok and that is not a problem. But if they decide try it, they want to be interested immediately or they give it up. Long story short - I intercede too for little bit faster start :) That's the one, thanks Angela! Kris, I believe you are looking for this shot: Does anyone know where I can download a high res version of the WAM logo? I know the link was somewhere on WAM a while ago but I can't find it. Different music?I spent a very very long time trying to find a new music track from Jamendo, but nothing with the right licence fitted the video as well as the original. Maybe I should set up a task so we could have original music on the video? There are a lot of composers on here, maybe one of them could help? CommentsI've set up a task for this: DIfferent and original music would be good. Lots of great wreckers on here that can help with that. Now it's complete! Almost..I like the new opening. The fonts work now, although i'd still go with a more exiting one.. - Maybe there could be at the beginning a little text explaining how over 3000 volunteers were used in the making of ITP. Or how their communal experience led to WAM. - The muzak is horrible though... But i like how ýou timed the Snowblind gunshot to the bang in the music.. - Maybe there could be some footage from the site, or at least its logo. - You could add Landing to the references showcasing some of Yann's work ;) Comments"Maybe there could be at the beginning a little text explaining how over 3000 volunteers were used in the making of ITP. Or how their communal experience led to WAM." Well, I'm trying to keep the video as simple as possible so that it's easy to translate. And some people might be disappointed when they don't get 3000 volunteers for their WAM production... ;) Maybe there could be a general reference to volunteers helping on the production without specifying a number? "Maybe there could be some footage from the site, or at least its logo." I tend to avoid logos in promo videos in case they change, but as the video will have to be updated for new productions anyway maybe that would be possible. Angela had suggested something similar too. I would avoid footage of the site because that changes much more often, so it would date more quickly? "The muzak is horrible though" Well, I quite like it but this is a matter of taste ;) But to be serious, I did spend quite a bit of time trying replace the music before I published the new version. I tried to find something more neutral and timeless, e.g. classical, but couldn't find anything just right. One problem is that it has to fit many different types of scene, and a lot of tracks go off in a particular direction which doesn't really match the stuff on-screen. If you try playing some random music on top of the video you'll see what I mean I think. Another problem is that this video has to be kept short so the track has to begin and end within about 3 or 4 minutes. Most instrumental tracks don't do that. If you have any better suggestions which are short and legal and fit the video please do let me know. I spent a long time searching Jamendo for a replacement: http://www.jamendo.com/en/tags ...maybe you can find something there, or from another source? We can't use unlicensed music because it is clearly a promotional video and WAM might get into trouble if the music isn't licensed properly. I'm also going to set up a task for music, there are talented people on here, maybe they can come up with something. :) "But i like how ýou timed the Snowblind gunshot to the bang in the music.." That was actually pure coincidence, believe it or not. :) But I did edit the video to some extent to fit the general tone of the music (and I can edit the music too if the track licence permits it). Font thoughts...Hi there, Just watched the new video and love it! My only comment is about the fonts - I think it is good that it is white now, that is much clearer, but yet I cannot help wondering whether it may be be useful to slightly increase its size and perhaps use a clearer/modern-looking font? I mean something of the Arial/Verdana family rather than Times New Roman, which IMHO looks very good on printed material but turns out to be a bit "tricky" on screen. Also love the way you integrated some "fun moment" from the making of Star Wreck (0:43) - by the way, do I understand correctly that the titles on this snippets were already embedded in the image and could not be altered? Is this why you picked another font your wreckamovie description, to keep this one "different"? CommentsI've updated the video with a new font, added another film's clip, and added a title at the beginning. All feedback welcome. Titles in the clouds are a good idea, will try to do that. "This version is so far superior to the last one, i'm still recovering from it's impact." That means a lot from you Jani, I know you don't say this stuff if you don't mean it. :) I'm still fairly new to using proper video editing software, but trying to practise all the time. The best kind of practice for me is to just do lots and lots of vids, so I'm happy to do more versions if required. I don't mind the overlapping fonts, but Times New Roman must go. My rule is always to stay away from the standard fonts: 1001freefonts.com could help you. This version is so far superior to the last one, i'm still recovering from it's impact. And put the "This is WAM" title right at the beginning, as the camera zooms through the clouds. I could try to obscure the subtitles, or trim the videos somehow. I'm still learning my way around the editing software, I'm sure something like that is possible. Hmmm... as I feared. So there are the following options: 1) Keep the current SW/2Pi shots and differentiate the font for the rest of the video through the usage of a different font family (current situation). Drawback: it is possibly not the easiest thing to read, as it does not look very "natural" on screen (at least IMHO). 2) Keep the current SW/2Pi shots and differentiate the font for the rest of the video through the usage of a different color (previous situation). Drawback: it is possibly not the easiest thing to read, as it does not look very "professional" 3) Change the SW/2Pi shots to some without text, and use the ideal clean/modern font for your text. 4) Ask the respective crews for SW/2Pi shots without burned-in text. Use the ideal clean/modern font for your text and differentiate this with another font. 5) Ask the respective crews for SW/2Pi shots without burned-in text. Use the ideal clean/modern font for your text and differentiate this with another color. Anything I am missing? ^_^ I ought to say I'd almost advise you to go for option 3, as both 1/2 and 4/5 seem to suffer similar drawbacks which I am not sure can be resolved at all... I wasn't 100% happy with the font either, I'll try something different. And will make it a bit bigger too. All of the making-of clips of SW and 2Pi had subs burned into them, so I couldn't remove them. That did indeed complicate things as people might get a bit confused.  This movieYou forget to tell people that you made the very commercial they are watching through Wreck A Movie! CommentsWell... I don't want to get too self-referential. :) They're not coming to WAM for the adverts. ;) |
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I completely agree, as in my shot I also was worrying about nothing happening in the first 30 seconds. I love WAM, I wanted to see the video, and yet I felt myself desiring it would speed... ;)
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