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The Iron Sky -team is looking for your ideas and comments. Join and show your support for Iron Sky. The scale of Nazi gunshipFYI: A very low polygon render of the nazi gunship & f-18. I think the basic AA missiles are not quite enough :). A-10 30mm might be able to punch some holes perhaps... 
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"I wonder if the UFO might not be able to 'rub out' conventional aircraft KAMAKAZI due to their superior size and weight playing the childhood game of 'connect the dots' so to speak?"
That's true... if the saucer's armour is tough enough and the mass is enormous enough, they wouldn't even need to shoot an enemy fighter, they could just ram into it.
Oh NO: Excessive Frag-Armaments?
This design is quite forboatin':
I would consider 'any' armaments besides 'grapeshot' to be paranoid for this hulking anti-gravity missions that presumably go from 0 - 6000 quiet fast...
The ED 2-O-9 - err: A-10's... uhm: the Harrier's GAU Avenger would present difficulties within short range (1 - 3 miles)
I wonder if the UFO might not be able to 'rub out' conventional aircraft KAMAKAZI due to their superior size and weight playing the childhood game of 'connect the dots' so to speak?
Perhaps 'uber kraft ' may be armed with rail gun to sink long range gunships from beyond the immediate atmosphere and to endorse immediate action from their 'untermenschen.'
MajorD: The funny helmet-resembling structure on top of the turret is the craft's main AA system. And yes indeed, AC-130 was a huge inspiration for this craft. They would definitely use fragmentation shells for AA.
Kari & Kris: if you look closely enough, you can see ladders on the surface. Don't worry, the scale will be established properly in the film. And good points on the bolts. I like the way they look, in my reasoning superheavy armour demands some super heavy bolts. And I spied some huge bolts on certain WW2 tanks, so I used something similar here =)
If their armor is nothing more than steel, the saucers would be at a huge disadvantage against any modern anti-tank weapon. Modern tank armor per inch is equal to many inches of the best steel armor.
What I find interesting about the saucer is that its ball turret guns look large enough to be around the same size as the 105mm guns that the AC-130 gunship carries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_AC-130
Also, considering their positioning alone, I would say they're for ground support. So, each saucer may be like a super gunship. Those guns won't be any good for AA, but they could still fire a proximity fused AA frag shell in an attempt at AA.
I actually think it would be more likely they would carry some sort of heat seaking mini-saucer missile for AA. It aught to be primitive IR tracking easily spoofed by flair and the sun.
Kari, that's a great idea. Ladders bolted to the side of the ship would give a scale even when there's no one on the ship.
The reference media actually has two persons standing on the roof. They are difficult to spot, because they are so small.
For some reason, the gunship looks much smaller than it is supposed to be. Perhaps it is those bolts, which seem to be about the size of a human head. I thought they were normal bolts..
Adding ladders to the side of the ship or something which people can recognize would help to realize the size of the thing.
Nazis love to parade!
MooNazis even more!
Put these parading down the Champs Elysee!
The problem with modern air to air missiles is that the warhead is just a bit small and of the wrong type (blast-fragmentation) to deal with armour. Shame the movie was not set in the late '60s or '70s, the USAF could have pulled out the AIR-2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIR-2_Genie ) a air to air rocket with a 1.5kt nuclear warhead.
Compare two well known US missiles of similar length that have been in service for decades with continued updates and would still be in the inventory in 2018, one air to air and the other air to ground (including against tanks and other hardened vehicles). The AIM-9 Sidewinder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-9_Sidewinder & AGM-65 Maverick http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-65_Maverick . The Sidewinder has a 9.4 kg blast-frag warhead and is only about 90-95 kg over all, it is designed to chase down agile high speed aircraft that have little to no armour and rip them apart with the shrapnel and explosion from the blast-frag warhead. The Maverick has a 57 kg hollow shaped charge or a 140 kg high explosive penetrator warhead, and is up to 305 kg over all. It is designed to detonate on the target, with the hollow charge a very intense point of pressure is created on the armour ripping into the armour, with the explosive penetrator the front of the charge is fitted with a metal liner that is vaporised projecting a hypervelocity jet of metal into the armour and cutting through it.
The basic difference between the two weapon types, air to air tries to do as much over all damage as possible and air to ground to do as much damage a single point.
Wow! The Nazi gunship is really big! :)
I wouldn't be so sure of that. The explosives in modern AA missiles are incredibly strong, and (transformed) anti-naval missiles might be used instead. E.g. in Falkland war 1982 the Brittish navy lost a destroyer weighing 4 820 tonnes hit by a French Exocet anti-naval missile.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Sheffield_(D80)#The_sinking_of_HMS_Sheffield
...also I hope the film has footage of a person walking on top of one of these at some point (maybe a mechanic?), to get the scale across to the audience.
When things are flying it's difficult to tell how big they are, and I'm guessing most people would assume they're much smaller.
The round thing on the top looks physically like a hatch on a tank, which made me think the suacer was about the same overall size as a jet.
Heck... you should add that to the task synopsis, it sheds a lot of light on just how big these things are.