Join us as a studio audience next week.
| Posted April 06, 2010 by Jarmo Puskala 4 Thumb-ups |
Jarmo and Pekka are the guests in a tv talkshow pilot shooting in Helsinki next week. Join us as the studio audience. We'll be talking abotu Iron Sky and making movies - and of course this is a nice opportunity to see how tv shows are made.
And when I say "tv pilot" it means it might not see the light of day,or it might be picked up by a tv channel.
As usual, read more on our blog (and let them know if you're planning on coming): http://blog.starwreck.com/2010/04/06/come-to-see-pekka-and-jarmo-in-helsinki-next-week/
Nazi UFO concept art
| Posted April 01, 2010 by Jarmo Puskala 5 Thumb-ups |
We promised to release a new concept picture if we reach 10,000 Facebook fans before March was over. And we did! Thanks!
Read more about the design on our blog: http://blog.starwreck.com/2010/04/01/ever-wondered-what-a-nazi-ufo-cockpit-looks-like/
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http://www.astronautix.com/craft/vkav1957.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/spauiser.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/1crpsule.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/bisander.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LK_Lander
Please look at the designs.Hope it would be helpful.
Thanks, yeah, it's gonna work and rock your socks!
Basically if this film is to work and enthrall people it must avoid the situation where,in essence, the Nazis turn up in souped up ME 109's only to run into the latest 21st century technology the US currently has.....it would be a very short.very embarassing invasion.You get my point that the clash must work and be plausible.
Get that right and this flik will rock!
Thanks for the encouraging words and all the input. Couple of points about the design, referring to some of the comments made:
This concept shows only the cockpit of this craft (known as "Rheingold" by the way) with seats for pilot and co-pilot. The cockpit of Rheingold is a rather cramped niche with room for only two people and the critical controls they need to effectively operate the craft under any circumstances. Rest of the crew is stationed on the bridge area which opens behind the camera. The bridge is more spacious (still cramped, see Das Boot for good reference), with stations for commander of the craft, systems engineer, radar/comm/sensors operator, gunners, and other possible passengers such as mission specialists, replacement crew, VIP, etc. The bridge side of this compartment is saturated with gauges, readouts, valves, pipes, levers, buttons, analog computers, and so forth. There's also another, sealed compartment at the bottom part of the craft for maintenance/EVA crew and gunner (and possible extra passengers and cargo too).
The craft has an array of relatively sophisticated sensors and radar instruments, but mainly the nazis use Phantoscope for scanning, target tracking/acquisition and firing solution. The Phantoscope can be thought of as a crude but efficient omnidirectional radar/scanning device, and basically it's the eyes of the craft. Other sighting devices are merely backups to be used when Phantoscope operation is compromised due to interference, malfunction, damage or similar reason. One of the interfaces for the Phantoscope can be spied in front of the co-pilot's seat. It has three-axis controls for zooming and rotating the effect, and targeting. The user can use the eyepiece for a visual representation of the sensor data and manipulate the view and direction of the effect quite efficiently. Weapon and navigational systems can be used with or without input from the Phantoscope (weapon systems and orientation/maneuvering can also be slaved to the Phantoscope), and typically space nazis would use other instruments in conjuction with the Phantoscope for maximum operational efficiency.
All in all, the Rheingold and other nazi craft are closer to early space technology, submarines, gunship/bomber aircraft and naval vessels in operation, rather than fighter aircraft which they hardly resemble at all.
Nice combination of high-tech and low-tech, it reminds me of Star Wars. Many advanced features and stuff but you still have to push the buttons and pull the levers yourself instead of letting a computer do the job for you. That is one of the things I love in science fiction.
I would love to have some "wallpaper" sized shots of your work, I love this movie.
This is biutyful i lkie this a lot :D
I counted the gauges for some contemporary aircraft and the concept has a kind of average number of gauges. What's interesting is that each side has been distinctly split, rather than made redundant, with the right appearing to be pure navigation, since the one right stick can't be for heading since it can only be pushed or pulled.
The difference in technology is only two decades, but that completely misses the point, that being the number of systems. Real life space vehicles simply have more systems to worry about than airplanes. The saucer concept has an aircraft's level of controls, with a small concession to space navigation with the second seat. But, at a guess, unless there is a third guy the ship is missing life support gauges and controls which can cover a lot, flood lights switches both internal and external, power generator related stuff if its separate from the anti gravity unit or units, radiator stuff, heaters and fans stuff, also controls and readouts for flight suits if they went that far. There will also be unique readouts for special saucer engine, for instance if it creates gravity the intensity of the gravity and the gradient will need readouts, there may even be a shielding factor for the cockpit to avoid tidal forces. If the engines just create movement by magic, there should still be other magical readouts. This is supposed to be a concept for a very early scout saucer, so it makes some sense it may be missing stuff, but the later saucers should have more, and there will be advancement between leaving and coming back.
Since this is an early scout concept, it's alright having only a iron site or gyroscope, but without a radar scope it's going to be useless in a real space fight where being 100 km away means you're invisible to the naked eye. You need radar for detection and tracking, or at least an infrared photoelectric system.
I too think the concept looks fantastic; but disagree wtih MajorD's generic remarks about 'needs more' -- and comparing navigation and electronics technology decades apart.
Space navigation and precision gunnery is possible with very simple instruments; and many mechanical and simple instruments do not requre full panel backups; in fact concerns like weight constraints often would prohibit it...
The concept looks great and I noticed the center yoke in the left position. It looks like it can fully control vector and orientation all in one. It could actually be made for one hand use, but since it's an older version it makes sense to have a more complex or cumbersome system.
It really needs more gauges and space navigation backups. Over all, the number of gauges and switches are unusually sparse, especially for something that is supposed to have topped out technologically in the 1940's. Look at the Apollo and Space Shuttle consoles.
http://history.nasa.gov/diagrams/apollo.html
http://raycolcord.com/images/SpaceBig/31ShuttleCockpit1.jpg
http://www.aviationexplorer.com/cockpit_photos/space_shuttle_cockpit.jpg
http://www.chancebliss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/shuttle_cockpit.jpg (I don't think the ceiling was changed in the upgrade.)
Also, with the talk of gyroscopic gun sights, the Nazis should really have radar sights by 2018, as well as simple integrated circuits. The moon's soil is almost 25% silicon, so no problem in that one regard. It's one thing to have perfected 1940's technology, but technological advance isn't linear, it doesn't even have to follow the same paths. But, perfected 1940's tech is pretty much 1960's tech minus integrated circuits. But, given enough time the Nazis should eventually have integrated circuits, but not microprocessors. I don't think they would even have magnetic tape storage. Punch cards and cams for Space Nazis.
The modern Space Nazi ships are going to have to have computerized radar gunnery or else they'll be annihilated thousands of kilometers outside their gun ranges by Earth ships.
I wonder, if there could be any chance for us fans to get a "Schiessfiebel für fliegen mit Haunebu"? That would be a cool item to get!!
You can always retain those cartwheel sights as backup system if reflector sight fails for some reason. Just put them plain sight near reflector so it can be deployed fast if needed. They did that in some sight systems if I recall correctly.
Almost none of fighter aircrafts in WW2 used iron sights (some very obsolite ones might). Sights for fixed weapons were either telescope or reflector sights. Aircrafts with flexible mounted guns usually used iron sights.
Germans used reflector sights for even small 20mm AA guns right at the start of WW2.
Iron sights are so WW1 : )
Looks awesome and sounds interesting so why the hell not =) We'll sure consider this when we start doing final decision for this set. It's always a matter of what kind of effect you want to give with the small details though, iron sight like the one in this concept screams WW2 and retro. Retro!!
Thanks for the great input!
First let me say that Nazi Ufo's Cockpit looks great. Nice utilitarian retro look. One small detail caught my eye however, the gunsight for pilot or whoever sits on left side. Currently gunsight is depicted as cartwheel sight. If the guideline is: 1945 technology – perfected, why not use reflective sights as luftwaffe did through entire war. At the last days of the war a few ME26 were equipped with gyro gunsights. These sight automatically calculate deflection required for hit on the target. Also german AA batteries used very high tech (at the time) mechanical central computing machines, that calculated leads from given inputs. So its not far fetched that moon nazis can use something similiar or even better.
Reticle should look something like these. Last one should be best : )
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/instrumente/katalog/revi/gross/Vergleich_Revi_16%5B1%5D.JPG
Revi 3 D
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/instrumente/katalog/revi/gross/Revi3d-3.gif
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/instrumente/katalog/revi/gross/Revi3d-7.gif
Revi C12
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/instrumente/katalog/revi/gross/Fl22103-1.gif
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/instrumente/katalog/revi/gross/Fl22103.gif
Revi 16B
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/instrumente/katalog/kopien/gross/Kopie%20Revi%2016%20B/revi16%20schnitt.jpg
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/instrumente/katalog/kopien/gross/EZ%2042%20Nachbau/11.gif
Handbook for Revi 16 B
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/archiv/Dokumente/ABC/r/Reflexvisiere/Revi%2016%20B%20Waffenhandbuch.pdf
Handbook for EZ42 (gyro gunsight)
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/archiv/Dokumente/ABC/e/EZ42%20Handbuch.pdf
Lots of material for LF's instrumental panels
http://deutscheluftwaffe.de/
And last something else...
http://rafiger.de/Homepage/Literatur/Schiessfibel.pdf
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