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5+TV > Blog: First...er...second test is going on!

1264 days ago | 2 Comments | 4 Thumb-ups

The first 5+TV streaming test in 2007 was made on Windows Media Encoder platform driving on Win XP. It was stable but seriously slow.
The second test is driving on Linux with french Videolan. In early VLC versions we had some problems with playlists. When 1st file playback ends and 2nd file playback starts, the client side losts connection to stream every time, even we had set "Keep stream alive" option. We'll see what happens in new VLC issue. More to come....

Angela R. commented a shot

5+TV > Main 5+TV logo > A few quick experiments...
by: Angela R.
...which I need to continue elaborate...

1265 days ago | 0 Thumb-ups

Dario, don't worry at all! You do not need to apologize! I am just glad I managed to explain you what I meant! The final decision is and remain yours - I just *had* to raise those points as it felt that by creating something completely different from the original logos and treating the TV as a completely separated entity, you'd risk losing the very special positive feeling connected to the "5+" network as a whole. Something that many other companies have changed their brands to achieve... and which you may regret missing later on! Anyhow, I wonder if you could post for me all of the available logos from the radio, the network, etc? Everything that has historically been used by your company, on its own as well as with its associated partners? If you feel the company is daring enough to make a step as big as a change of the old logo would be, then this is the perfect time and place to collect everything and see how it can be merged to create a recognizable new symbol, which should be at the same time familiar and dear to the old fans and appealing to a new, modern audience.

Dario Odobasic commented a shot

5+TV > 5+TV animated logo > After the logo is decided? ;)
by: Angela R.
Well, yeah. You need to have a definitive logo first, though. :)

1265 days ago | 1 Thumb-up

Obviously YES....the task is set too early :)

Dario Odobasic commented a shot

5+TV > Main 5+TV logo > A few quick experiments...
by: Angela R.
...which I need to continue elaborate...

1265 days ago | 0 Thumb-ups

OMG, that was the fullest possible explanation of this task. Thank you Angela, I really didn't thought that way until now. Well, some people says that man learns for the whole life and dies without knowledge. OK, the first Radio 5+ logo is designed by (some 12 years ago) an elementary school student and this logo was held until the present day for some sentimental reasons, if you understand me. Nobody of us didn't ever have in mind those rules you mentioned in your last comment so things were as they were. It is obvious that "5+" is some kind of our "brand" and it can be the heart of everything which has to represent our identity. The only problem is that our association was court-registered as "Radio 5+" so this is the only reason why the internet radio AND association have the same names. I thought that 5+TV can have quite different identity which, after seeing your detailed explanation, I found wrong. Please consider that I'm not so good in visual perception rules so I think that this was the main reason of my misunderstanding :)

Angela R. gave a shot "After the logo is decided? ;)" for 5+TV

5+TV > 5+TV animated logo > After the logo is decided? ;)
We didn't have animated logo. Maybe some of you have some spare time to do something...

1265 days ago | 1 Comment | 2 Thumb-ups

Well, yeah. You need to have a definitive logo first, though. :)

Angela R. commented a shot

5+TV > Main 5+TV logo > A few quick experiments...
by: Angela R.
...which I need to continue elaborate...

1265 days ago | 1 Thumb-up

Professional? *laugh* Alright, I did do some graphic design studies. But this was in Italy, and I graduated over 10 years ago, so my knowledge is very likely to be outdated. :P Anyhow, I do feel compelled to repeat that what has been taught me, in the hope it assists you decide which way to go. When adding a new product to a series, one can either: 1) if there already is a logo, which has mostly the same name and use the required new one, then tweak the old or add something near it (or a part of it) so that it becomes different and yet remains perfectly recognizable to those familiar to the older one. 2) in case this is not doable because the old logo is not appropriate to such use and/or there are more old logos to which the new one could relate, consider replacing the old logos with a new one which incorporates clear elements from all of the the old ones (to stay recognizable) and at the same time can be used as a general "brand" for each different formats/products together with a distinctive feature. 3) in case there are many different formats/products that use too different logos to be merged recognizably, consider creating a "collector" logo to use as a brand near each of the single ones, to establish them all as a part of the same family/network. I'll now try to give you some examples for each of the options. I am feeling free to give some Italian examples as they may be something you've seen for yourself from Croatia: 1) BBC: All of their logos incorporate the older BBC logo bit. Cannot get simpler as this. When a new logo is required for any use, they just add something next to the same old BBC bit. See http://www.attitudedesign.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/bbc-radio-logos.jpg 2) RAI: the logos for the different channels used to be similar and yet different from each other, but have "recently" been changed to look more similar and modern, boosting views for the less-established channel. The RAI bit is repeated (just like the BBC does), and a different number/color distinguish the different channels as separated entities. See http://www.transnationale.org/upload/rai_logo.jpg 3) Mediaset: This is different because the channels started off as different identities and the logos were too different to be merged. Therefore a Mediaset network logo collecting the single logos of Rete 4, Canale 5, Italia 1 has been introduced and is nowadays used to establish the different brands as connected to each other. In this case, it is the Mediaset bit is the bit that is repeated. See http://www.softquattro.com/images/logoMediaset.gif So my feeling is that wanting to follow the trend, since you have products/formats with about the same name, you could/should consider setting the "5+" bit as a base of whatever logo you need keeping it the same for all to identify them as connected. Then use extra bits next to it to identify the specific products (radio, TV), or shrink it to use as a small marker next to another logo for use as a network container (like Mediaset) Makes any sense? ...and woah. Was this just my longest comment ever? ;)

(null) commented a shot

5+TV > Main 5+TV logo > A few quick experiments...
by: Angela R.
...which I need to continue elaborate...

1265 days ago | 0 Thumb-ups

By "square" I just meant that the logo would be as wide as it is high, because that's what computer icons generally are. I didn't mean the actual content should be square. :)

Dario Odobasic commented a shot

5+TV > Main 5+TV logo > A few quick experiments...
by: Angela R.
...which I need to continue elaborate...

1265 days ago | 0 Thumb-ups

Angela, 5+TV is "department" of Radio 5+ association. There is also Net Radio 5+ which represents the network of 6 (so far) small internet radio stations/studios. So, Radio 5+ as an association and Net Radio 5+ as a radio have very similar logos and 5+TV logo have somehow to differ both of them. That was my first thought about new logo. But as always, I like to listen a word of professional ;)

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